Prime Willie Pep vs. Current Lomachenko?

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Pep vs. Loma

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  1. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Willie Pep, who had 241 fights with only 11 questionable losses, vs. Lomachenko, who has, at this point, about 10 fights.

    Dimensions are similar with height and reach going to Lomachenko. Speed similar. Power questionable. Footwork very similar too.

    Who has Featherweight supremacy if they fought it out?
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How many full pep fights have you seen? Be honest.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    They look like midgets fighting.
     
  4. Side

    Side New Member Full Member

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    I've seen 45 seconds of Pep's fight. He was a beast, a legend...but different times, different games.
     
  5. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That has to be mostly the camera quality. And featherweights then were 126 lbs in the ring, not 135.
     
  6. Farmboxer

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    Lomachenko has the speed, but he also has power, Pep did not have power..............
     
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  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    70 years apart, haha. Tough to put two guys with so many eras between them in a "hypothetical fantasy fight." Might as well be whole different worlds... All we can judge by is what they accomplished.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Has Lomachenko beaten only one ranked contender? Have I got that right?
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Russell Jr. was ranked in the top 10. Some could argue he didn't deserve it, but proved at least some of his worth immediately after his loss to Lomachenko.

    Martinez has long been ranked. I rate him higher than most do, as many have scored him the loser of many or even all of his close decisions/draws.

    Walters was very highly rated going into their fight. Deservedly so. But boy did he flop in their fight, time will tell if it's as good a win as it seemed at the time.

    Sosa was top 10, too.

    Pretty impressive run for so few fights, must be said.
     
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  11. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are we saying who accomplished more? Or if we opened a time portal and had them both step in and fight each other?

    I have to say, almost ALWAYS, the fighter of the future will win if it's a time portal scenario. I think it makes more sense to judge them by what they accomplished in their era.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Was Gary ranked by RING was he? He wasn't ranked by TBRB...i checked though and you're right, Martinez was #7 - which is the same as Sosa off the top of my head.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I'd say a fair way of looking at it is:

    He has beaten 4 ranked opponents.

    1 very highly ranked and viewed; Walters.

    3 ranked toward/in the lower half of the top 10; Russell, Martinez, and Sosa.

    Russell Jr is an odd case. Some could say he didn't deserve to be top 10 at all going into their fight and he only has one victory over a ranked opponent himself in Jhonny Gonzalez, although it is a very nice one, which came one year later.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    TBRB have him facing two ranked opponents. I'd like to know what RING had him doing. Either way, he's on his way now; i can't see him facing too many unranked guys from here on in.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I like to bring up this point when discussing fantasy fights of guys separated by decades...

    Lets not drop Willie Pep 70 years into the future to fight Lomachenko. Lets try dropping Lomachenko off 70 years in the past, born into that nutrition with those training techniques fighting that often with that era of boxing rules.

    And just like that, people previously so sure of themselves were left with a whole lot of thoughts.

    Always bring this up in the "Vitali Klitschko vs. Joe Louis" sort of debates.
     
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