Prime wlad prime lenox lewis...who wins?

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  1. Twisted_Metal

    Twisted_Metal Active Member Full Member

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    lewis even in his prime often has some trouble , against mccall, rahman, holyfield rematch, mercer, bruno... I'd pick lewis to beat wlad but knowing lewis performance kind of hit and miss I'm not surprise if he somehow lose. But it would be 70:30 for him
     
  2. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If McCall and Rahman can do to Lewis what they did to him, it'd not be unreasonable to give the MUCH more powerful and skill, as well as bigger, Wlad Klitschko a decent chance to nail Lewis, as well.

    It'd be a great fight, and to even debate the matchup is a great service to Wlad, as I consider Lewis to be one of the all time greats, bar none.
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Im not going to sit here and dissect how i think the fight would go EXACTLY... but one thing i do tend to notice about wlad discussions and i just want to touch upon my take on it is this


    Most people, IMO, wont judge this fight properly.

    They will look at the fact that Wlad has lost to brewster and sanders and try to use the logic of 'well, lewis is 10x's greater then both of them combined, of course he beats wlad'

    But IMO, it just doesnt work like that.

    Sanders was a very fast, powerful, SOUTHPAW who was as big as Lewis to boot. Wlad couldnt see the left cross to save his life, and thus is where his problems were in that fight. Pretty much, anyone who tries to use that fight as any sort of measuring stick to how Wlad would do against Lewis has lost the plot, imo. The fight shows nothing, and means nothing, when discussing wlads h2h matchups with other heavies.

    Brewster is another fight where Wlad fought an extraordinarilly tough and HIGHLY MOTIVATED fighter (remember the death of his trainer and him dedicating the fight to him?) who went to hell and back trying to get to wlad (and as great as most of the fighters brought into the discussion to fight wlad are, they are not going to fight like brewster, have brewsters toughness or durability, or the determination to walk through the firestorm he did that night)

    So to me, and just my opinion, wlad is not judged accordingly in these matchups...

    I am not going to sit here and say i think Wlad BEATS Lewis, but with lewis's very orthodox style, and his OWN issues regarding his chin, I can see this fight playing out many different ways. One has to lean towards lewis though, at his best he was still very physical, very tough, and very very strong.... let alone the great fighter he is. Id have to favor lewis, but i dont think it would be the one sided drubbing many see. Too many people dont appreciate Wlads quality, and like to throw in 'Grant' out of nowhere, fact is in no life could Grant be as good as Wlad or have had the success that Wlad has had, they are on two different planets.

    Anyways, just IMO :good
     
  4. BIG WORM

    BIG WORM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis KO

    End of story
     
  5. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Id favor Lewis but u never know. Everybody talks **** about Sanders. He was called the "Sniper' by Lennox for a reason. They also shared the same promoter. Just because Sanders did it doesn't mean Lewis can. Totally diff styles. Lewis wasn't as fast as Sanders. If he was to knock Waldo out it would b in later rounds if at all.
     
  6. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    Agreed, but Wlad could not have took the shots that his brother did!!

    And, of course, Lewis was way past "Prime" when he fought Vitali!

    Lewis is a terrible H2H match-up for Wlad and imo a "Prime" and focused Lewis tkos any version of Wlad within 5 rounds.
     
  7. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    A "Prime" and focused Lewis possessed more than sufficient power to scramble Wlad's senses, but I do concede the point that "Safety first" Wlad could lose via late round TKO or UD.

    However, I just feel that Lewis would be fully aware of Wlad's vulnerability and would formulate a strategy that would ensure a TKO victory within 5 rounds.
     
  8. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    A well thought and articulate post (Just what I expect to read from Kirk).

    I agree with it on several points (Particularly the obvious stylistic differences between Lewis and Saunders and the Wlad/Grant non-comparison) but despite this I do believe the fact that Lewis was a far superior boxer than Brewster or Saunders cannot be ignored. Lest we forget, a "Focused" Lewis was a master tactician (Not that Wlad is a slouch:))and it is obvious that Wlad's vulnerability would play a part in Lewis' strategy.

    Imo this fight ends in three ways:

    "Safety first" Wlad utilises his current strategy and loses a clear (Though in no way humiliating) UD. Or Lennox catches him "Late" and forces the TKO. Or!!

    Wlad fights with far less caution!! Now, this could prove his best hope of pulling off what many would consider a "Shock" win, but I personally believe that such a strategy would only ensure that Lennox triumphs by TKO in 5.

    No dis on Wlad (Who is an excellent fighter and who is arguably "Prime" now!!) but he has just "Fought" one of the greatest heavyweights of all-time who is also a H2H nightmare for any heavyweight who ever lived!
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good Wlad has earned the right to climb into the "Fantasy ring" with Lennox and he is worthy of such praise imo.
     
  10. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  11. Phirsole

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/others/boxing-klitschkos-falling-over-each-
    other-to-shut-up-haye-1918877.html

    Quote:

    Klitschko, the holder of the WBC belt, also revealed yesterday the key player in the failure to set up a rematch with Lennox Lewis.

    "Lennox invited me to London to talk – just me and him," he said. "When I arrived he was there and so was his mum. As we were talking his mum was scanning me up and down. A couple of hours later I got a call from him. No fight. It was his mum's decision."
     
  12. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lennox by anihilation :hi:
     
  13. maverock

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    Excellent point. Lewis went the rounds with guys like Mavrovich. Sometimes it felt like if Lewis was falling asleep in the ring. I would say Wlad boxing at 100% of his ability has a 30% chance of winning against a prime Lewis.
     
  14. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    I think that Prime Lewis beats Prime Wladimir badly. Wladimir despite being great fighter isnt as tough as his older brother who would have some chance against Prime Lewis.