Prime Wlad vs Joshua

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Who wins

  1. Prime Wlad decision

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  2. Joshua decision

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  3. Prime Wlad Knockout

    47 vote(s)
    81.0%
  4. Joshua knockout

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    12.1%
  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Definitely Wlad.

    A more prime version of Wlad finishes AJ and doesn't let him off the hook.

    A more prime version of AJ was ermmm beating a very old Povetkin and getting knocked out by Ruiz before resorting to out boxing him in the rematch.

    I don't think there's been a version of AJ yet that would be a favourite over the best version of Wlad.

    But AJ is only 30 and when Wlad turned 30 he was just entering the period of life everyone classes as his best years, so time will tell.

    Guys like Lewis, Ali, Foreman, Liston, Bowe, Frazier, Tyson, Louis, Holmes etc I'd favour to get the job done.

    I reckon Fury probably always gets the job done, but not AJ
     
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  2. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Old Wlad nearly stopped him, a prime Wlad finishes the job. It’s this fight that tells me AJ doesn’t match his level of hype.
     
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  3. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Upon reflection you are correct, Joshua was undefeated then, & while it is too much to call him a novice with 18 wins, he did get better, refine his skills & still remained in his physical prime.

    He would have a shot against prime Wlad.
    Abd if Wlad was not allowed a lot of clinching, he may be a "live dog" too.
     
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  4. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A clearly past it Wlad had Joshua's eyeballs rolling into the back of his head with a single right hand.
    It took Joshua 2 rounds to recover while shot to **** Wlad couldn't pull the trigger except when he let loose with massively telegraphed left hooks which even drunken Joshua was able to dodge.

    And you ask what prime Wlad would do?
     
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  5. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He sure did, lots of amazing topics on the Forums.

    Prime vs. prime? Wlad 9 of 10 times.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    This Joshua?

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    Wlad never got clubbed like a baby seal by Patrick Star.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Prime Wlad gets the job done and KO's him.

    Wladimir had several deficiencies in the match vs Joshua compared to his prime versions.

    1) Wlad was clearly slower. The drop-off in speed between a prime Wlad and the version we saw vs AJ made all the difference. Klitschko was missing him by fractions of a second with big shots all night long. A tiny bit more speed and AJ would have eaten that big left hook that he so deftly slipped.
    2) Wlad's jab was nowhere. In his prime Wlad used his jab as an offensive weapon. In the AJ match he was pawing with it as a rangefinder. The problem with that is that not only was his primary weapon MIA, but he could also not hook off the jab with any degree of efficiency. With a proper jab, Wlad would have been able to mix things up better and keep AJ guessing.
    3) Little use of the straight right. Wlad's second great weapon, the straight right, was also MIA for most of the night. When he did throw it, he landed it.
    4) No offensive creativity. Wlad seemed to have decided that the leaping left hook was the weapon of choice vs AJ. When AJ handled it without problems, Wlad simply persisted in trying to land it over and over.
    5) Failed to pull the trigger. Wlad had always been a safety first fighter, but in past matches when his opponent was in serious trouble he made an effort to put him away - eg Wach. He let AJ off the hook for half the fight.
     
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  8. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    50/50
     
  9. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Wlad would be to much for prime AJ...
     
  10. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    2 fights ago AJ was spittin and quittin against a morbidly obese man with average heavyweight power. Are we saying his prime was the Wlad fight?
     
  11. Kingmaffe

    Kingmaffe Active Member Full Member

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    A younger Wlad would also fire off DEADLY combinations, with tremendous speed and accuracy, when he had his opponent badly hurt and ready to go. I watched some old highlight footage of Wlad some time back and the difference is very noticeable. Heck, even the Wlad that met Pulev (one of his better performances) was more of a single-punch guy.
     
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  12. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua.
    Wlad should have won their actual fight, but he was too dumb to slightly change the angle on his left hook and kept missing with it.

    Wlad is a great fighter, but his low ring IQ prevents him from adapting mid fight. I don't see anything he does differently if he was a bit younger. Maybe the early pre-Steward version had the best chance since he would be more aggressive.
     
  13. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Wlad would shatter that British Glass.!!!
     
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