Fury wasn't prime either , and he fought and beat two men that night. Wlad and his assistant who wouldn't allow Fury to inside box. Fury under Hill was better , stronger and hit harder. . His inside game would dismantle any version of Clinchko.
Fury failed for cocaine before the Wlad rematch, not PEDs. He didn't fail for the Wlad fight either. The off and on failed test was before Hammer. Wlad is far more suspect regarding PEDs than Fury actually. It depends what prime. In the days he was more aggressive, he had a decent shot of KO'ing Fury. It wouldn't surprise me. But he might also gas and get stopped himself. Using the defensive style in his later prime, he probably loses just the same because the issue was he couldn't land his jab and set up the shots and wasn't prepared to risk exchanging without that set up. He basically said this himself. He couldn't land because Fury wasn't a typical short plodder or tall plodder. His loss wasn't much to do with age. That would only make sense if Wlad gassed or was relying on speed, pressure or taking shots etc. He simply underestimated Fury's athleticism and couldn't adapt.
I'm big Klitschko fan. Always defend Wladimir. And even with my symphaty its hard to judge who would win in prime vs prime fight. Lets be honest. Fury not fight with best version of Wladimir not only because he was little older. 1. Wlad lost his mentor Stweard already. Im sure he would be better if Emmanuel were with him to carrer end. 2. Wlad lost focus because long time he dont have hard fight 3. Wlad got personal problems. Hayden give him baby and lot of trouble also. She looks on fight night like totally wasted person. 4. We all remeber this sponge on the ring floor case. Almost all accept it was trick from Klitschko to make Fury footwork worse but what with Klitschko footwork then? Klitschko use this not only for cheat over Fury. He train on same ring whole camp (calves injury was official reason). He for sure lost much more than Fury when he train few months moving on ring like that and fight night got smth totally different. Fury screwed up him by this protest. With all that and seeing what irritated and motivated can show us in Joshua fight where he show masterclass being even older I always belive that he can whoop Fury ass in reematch. But... Then Wilder trilogy happend and it show me that even when Wlad would be more agresive and throw more punches Fury got this mental and chin which still can make him survive hard moments and go for the win. Soo to sum up. Prime vs prime? Hard to say. It would be probably much more competetive and hard fight for both and must admit that even if I got symphaty on Wlad side I would give Fury 60-40 chances. But one more think. For me for got better chance to beat Władimir You need Dusseldorf version of Fury not this 130 kg near one. Why? Klitschko is also perfect at clinching game very strong dude. He would not be dominated in this area like chicken legs Wilder. Ngannou fight show excatly that this "agresive" Fury end when someone is strong and not get bully in wrestling part. Klitschko got few advantages over Fury like both hand punching power soo I think it would be better for Fury fighting with old tactic.
Wlad won 4-5 rounds, Fury was getting rounds for showboating and not landing clean punches (wrists/forearms/inside gloves) You read the quote wrong lol
So you say "I'm not a Wlad fan or an EE fan" but "Wlad won 4-5 rounds in my imagination, despite fan consensus being he won 1-2 and his judges in Germany saying he won 3-4 as the A-side champ" Compubox: Fury 86 (46 power), thrown 371, Wlad 52 (18 power), thrown 231. I'm not interested in your pathetic fanboy EE copes and assertions, such as "Lopez got a robbery decision over Lomachenko". No wonder you like that conspiratard idiot EE supremacist precise puncher/fight film.
"It depends what prime." The same goes for Fury. In these hypotheticals one could magic 2020 Fury out to face Wlad, with Wlad/Steward having absolutely zero knowledge or way to prepare for that, physically, mentally or tactically. "He simply underestimated Fury's athleticism and couldn't adapt." True. Some Wlad quotes: Post-fight: "I couldn't believe how fast and agile Fury was and how he kept it up for 12 rounds" Pre-fight: "Fury gets hit a lot, he's not as defensively sound as Tony Thompson" lol Pre-fight: "Cunningham dropped him with an overhand to the nose, we'll see if he has Wach's chin or Pulev's" He also seemed to think Fury was a dummy, or at least hoped he was. Wlad thought that because he spoke 47 different languages and had dominated (generally small heavies) for years that he was automatically the superior tactician over the "clown".
Fury's single win over Wilder is greater than Wlad's entire resume Once Fury eats Usyk like a buttered pancake Fury will reach GOAT status. Wlad isn't even above his brother Wlad's failure to finish off AJ after he dropped him is one of the biggest failures I've ever seen in boxing history. Telegraphed leaping hooks that even a hurt gassed AJ could avoid sitting on the ropes. IMAGINE.
Yes because fans are the greatest scorers of fight. Wlads a chinny bum,I rate fighters on skill not ethnicity nationality you’re just projecting. Facts are Kovalev, GGG Loma are highly skilled boxers who have got shafted Fight film is excessive in his conspiracy theories, a bit crazy. But he was completely right in his assessment of that pathetic fixed fight between Kovalev and Canelo.
Juiced up Fury managed to get past ancient wlad in one of the worst title fights ever and them ducked a rematch . Just a few years younger wlad beats him with ease.
An aggressive early 2000s version of Wlad probably smokes Fury. An overthinking jab right hand focussed Wlad might play into Fury's mindgames and the same thing unfolds. Wlad became too caught up in trying to land the perfect punch later in his career without taking any risks, and against Fury he could never find the right opportunity. If he goes head hunting from the off and doesn't care about return fire there's very little Fury can do.