PRIMES - CHAVEZ beats MAYWEATHER Jr

except the fact pernell lost to oscar and floyd didnt. but that was a dodgy decision right? I wonder who you scored that fight for. I cant believe you said floyd struggled with oscar and hatton. What is your problem with floyd anyways man? cant take the fact a lot of people think he more skilled than your boy?

 

I'll give you that but Pernells D made people miss, PBF takes shots on his elbows , forearms, shoulders and arms. HEs hard to hit flush but he can be there to be hit its all a matter of having the balls to be willing to get counterpunched. Why do you think he always has injuries. That is why i say Chavez beats him.

 

if you gotta ask that then why even join this conversation...everybody knows his best shot was the left hook to the body...the straight right was something he used to set up his hook to the gut

 

I dont think there is a fighter out there more conditioned than floyd in the past or present. That is a big reason why I think he beats JCC.

 

dont ever remember to see anybody hitting floyd with that shot either. anything else? And I do think his best shot was the right.

 

Pretty much even through 5 and having to adjust to lesser fighters? You're starting to sound like Amsterdam Jr.:good How many clean punches did Hatton land on PBF for the first half of that fight? PBF has usually been a slow starter but that what he does he figures you out goes to work and wins that's pretty much how his whole career has gone. You act as if Pea would have had Hatton outta there in 4 rounds or something.

You bring up that stuff about Zab and Jones and Pea finishing him off but let me ask you this how many KO's did Pea have and how many does PBF have?:yep

We all know about Lederman's cards, he can't score a fight if his life depended on it. Chavez up. :rofl PBF was outclassing Chavez in that fight hitting with clean punches almost at will before stopping him.

 

funny how in floyds eyes his only hard fight was the first castillo fight ahahahaaahahahahahh


emanuel burton
jesus chavez
hernandez
castillo
old man oscar
hatton
judah (check hooked floyd and dropped him)

all have given floyd hell and 2 have argueably beat him, fighters who dont even match up to a prime chavez

 

And? As you can see, you're the only one that agrees with your point of view.

So the fact that Floyd has to adapt to lower level opponents wouldn't cost him early rounds against Pea, who never had to do so? The fact that Floyd himself has admitted to having trouble with southpaws wouldn't trouble him against the most skilled southpaw of all time? The fact that Whitaker fought with a much higher workrate than Floyd wouldn't give him any edges, considering he is even better defensively and just as accurate? The fact that Oscarwas troubling Floyd for the first 7 rounds with his jab doesn't lead you to believe Floyd would have any problem with an even better jab from the southpaw position? Learn to analyze styles and then come back to me.

Do you consider Castillo to be better than JCC? The same Castillo that was a JCC sparring partner and two levels below JCC in every category? You don't see Chavez doing just a tad better?

Anyone with a brain knows Pernell is better than Floyd both as a head to head boxer and in terms of accomplishments and ATG status. Find me a single list with Floyd rated higher.

And again, my analysis of Chavez/Mayweather has absolutely nothing at all to do with Pea. Hell, someone was giving me **** in another thread when I pointed out the weaknesses of Chavez's career and when I pointed out where I rate Chavez all time P4P(#31). I am not nut-hugging in any way, I'm simply breaking down the fight, which you seem unable to comprehend.

I already gave my thoughts on the Hatton fight.

Pernell never struggled with a fighter near his prime outside of McGirt in the first fight. He struggled about as much with a guy like Roger Mayweather as Floyd did a guy like Corley or Judah, maybe a bit more as Roger was a much better fighter. I'd say Pernell was definitely more impressive against Roger in that he actually fought with him the entire time.

 

one of his many weapons definately was that right hand, but if you notice he would hardly ever commit to it, it was used as a weapon to get inside, something floyd has never seen....cotto does that once in a while and that alone has made floyd retire like 34907830489 times..:good

 

i could prolly knock you out i think if you gave me the fair one.

 

Wrong! That was not an offical KD we all know PBF slipped. :good

 

:huh

 

Ok, i thought floyd lost the first fight even though it is hard as hell to score and i watched it a gazillion times. He did win in the rematch though so that has to count for something.

 

call it want you want man, but floyd got dropped

30 seconds into it....and then wait for the slow mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=din0rds-EfI


that what seperates floydboys from the real fans...:-( :-(