who calls PBF the GOAT at 130? Dude your a hopless cause. Do you know how ignorent to the sport you are sounding? A prime Chavez wasnt slow or had poor defense. WATCH HIS FIGHTS
He was buzzed by a shot he didn't see comming and Chop had good handspeed and is a southpaw something you're hero lacks.:deal With that said what happend in that round? If I remember correctly he dropped Chop and still won the round that's all that really matters. If that's all you PBF haters have to show of PBF being hurt in a fight then you don't have ****. :rofl :hi:
I've seen enough of Chavez to know he didn't have fast hands especially when compared to PBF. PBF is considered the GOAT at 130 the only other fighter with that claim would be Arguello it's been discussed here.:deal
And by going based on what you've posted I see that your making assesments on a fighter based on his twilight years. Are you in denial or are you really that ignorent to understand That Chavez reigned supreme and fought everyone during his PRIME! All the attributes your giving Chavez are the attributes of Past Prime CHavez.atsch PBF gets respect in my book but guys like you who dont know anything about boxing make me shake my head:-(
mayweather wins. jcc 88-0 record was ****ing bull****. dont let it get to your head. Also dont let your love of pernell get to your head like sweet pea, who feels the need to bolster his man by making jcc some kind of demi-god. people see right through you sweet pea. mayweather had better defense than pernell. that defense alone will make jcc miss all night.
I know plenty about boxing. Chavez fought a bunch of no-hopers to pad his early record fact. He's an ATG fact. However I think he's overrated here that's all I'm saying he's a top 40-45 ATG not top 25 like I've seen some post around here.
Majority of these guys have barely started watching boxing, so whats your point? And if you've seen Chavez PRIMED like you say you have, you obviously saw it with your eyes close. I rest my case lil homie .
I truly wonder just how many posters who pick Floyd have actually seen Chavez IN HIS PRIME. As fast as Floyd is, & he IS very fast, there`s no way JCC had trouble with speed until he stepped up to 140 lbs & he was STILL arguably the best ever at that weight. JCC did lose some speed & reflexes at 140 while gaining a little more power but not enough to make up for what he was at his peak at 130/135. At 130/135... JCC would be cutting off the ring at a fast pace almost from the 1st bell, there isn any fighter who had legs good enough to avoid getting caught in the corner or ropes against a young mid 20s Chavez, he made everybody fight his fight eventually, some took longer than others but eventually they would be MADE TO TRADE & that my friends was the beginning of the end vs peak JCC. Also... Julio wasnt just an inside pressure fighter, oh no... he could jab with the best of them & his snapping right hand lead was lightning, he would hit you with that then switch a left hook to the liver instantly... he could do this continually until he sensed you were weakening or worse, you started to run... he would apply steady methodical pressure, work the liver, come up to the head then back to the body. He would bob & weave, making you miss badly while landing almost all of his power shots & even when you did land your best punch, JC used to just give you a look that made you realise you should have just saved your energy. His stamina was also phenomenal in his prime, he just kept getting stronger as the rds went by while his opponent was weakening. The look of fear on Floyd`s face going into the 9th or 10th (if he made it that far) would be priceless. Being generous to Floyd, I`ll say.... Chavez UD Floyd. Ive no doubt. :thumbsup
actually Pernells style was made to make you miss, and PBF was made to tire out your opponent by rolling bending forward and countering off of the shoulders. After his 47 fight when Chavez got the title he fought 55 times till he fought DLH. Out of 55 im sure 30 were world class, AT LEAST. Imagine a guy turing pro and fighting 30 world class opponents. Not to mention lot a guys lose to tune ups so that is why they dont take em. Chavez took em
floyd fans seem to think that defense is only A SHOULDER ROLL, FOREARM TO THE FACE AND RUNNING. chavez beautiful dip of the jab, followed by some solid waste movement would guarantee a free trip to mayweathers insides where floyd hates his opponents to be..... pimpc, there is other ways of defending yourself bro, chavez's bread and butter was his head movement while shooting at you first...his timing would offset floyds speed so much that floyds defense would turn to just running
and he still lost to pernell. some would argue he should of lost against taylor (with good reason, however ill give him that one)
Guys ima try to make a chavez You tube clip of his Defense when he was in his prime so you could see his D. So you could see him ON the ropes dippin,swaying the waist forward side to side all that.