Primes: Hagler versus Pavlik?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yes, it did. :good
     
  2. Fighting Weight

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    "usually"

    Maybe.

    But you're not talking Byrd V WALDO here.
     
  3. Toopretty

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    Yeah..Hagler is really going to stand and POSE in front of Pavlik like JT. Or Just come at him and say **** defense and boxing and just try to repeatedly hit him with the same right hand like Miranda. Hagler is moving side to side moving his head Pavlik does not have the skill to effectively time and hit Hagler like you think.
     
  4. 2smart4u

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    :patsch maybe because those fighters were not as good as PAVLIK !:deal just like MIKE could walk through some weak tall guys but he couldnt against the real good taller fighters !:good
     
  5. cross_trainer

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    No, he won't. All thanks to a wonderful invention we call "defense".
     
  6. cross_trainer

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    Do you consider Pavlik better than Hearns? :patsch
     
  7. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: I dont think or claim anything clown ! PAVLIK is a real tall and powerful and durable fighter and would give almost anyone problems ! And not once did I claim he would beat HAGLER ! But it certainly wouldnt be a cakewalk !:deal
     
  8. Toopretty

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    Ok one thing to bust this ****** up..Buster Dougy and Lennox did not beat Mike b/c they were tall. You are officially a crack head. They beat him b/c of there foot work and the fact they could hit and what..moveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....Pavlik punches and is standing str8 up flat footed right there and it would be a piece of cake to get on the inside. HEARNS NO..Hearns jabbed and MOVEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD
     
  9. Fighting Weight

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    So it's a negative when Larry does it, but it's a positive when WALD and Pavlik do it :huh :huh :huh

    I seem to remember you picking WALD over Larry because WALD was taller, despite him being stopped in his prime by fighters Holmes would have literally **** on. Now you're using that same ******ed logic to suggest Pavlik could give a good fight to a guy that NEVER TASTED CANVAS IN HIS ENTIRE ****ING CAREER???

    The only hellish thing in this fight for Marvin is the worry about whether he'd killed the guy when the ref finally steps in :deal
     
  10. cross_trainer

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    Kobe Bryant KO 2 Mike Tyson.
     
  11. 2smart4u

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    :patsch Stronger more durable and a much heavier puncher ! HEARNS wasa a crisp dinamic puncher but not the kinf of heavy handed guy PAVLIK is ! Kind of like comparing GEORGE and MIKE ! And with HAGLERS chin you would have more success trying to pound him down because he couldnt be taken out with single dynamic shots !
     
  12. Toopretty

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    BD and Lennox also could fight off of the back foot. Which was another trait that helped them avoid Mikes offense and land there shots.
     
  13. 2smart4u

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    :lol: Now your getting pathetic and trying to take things out of context !:hi:
     
  14. 2smart4u

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    :lol: I picked WALD over LARRY for a hell of alot more reasons then that ! And you realize that claiming HAGLER couldnt be given a hard fight because he was never dropped is kind of stupid !:yep
     
  15. cross_trainer

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    There's no way that Hearns is an inferior puncher to Pavlik. The guy carried his power up to 190, and was brutalizing most of the middleweights unfortunate enough to face him. Also KO'd Duran, who as you pointed out Hagler (despite his considerable power) couldn't knock out. His skills gave him more of an advantage than Pavlik's superior strength does.

    He couldn't be taken out by pounding either. Hence "never down in his career against murderous punchers".