Primes: Hagler versus Pavlik?

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  1. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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  2. Silverfox

    Silverfox Member Full Member

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    At this stage of Pavlik's career, it's a stupid question. Hagler would have destroyed him & Taylor as well.
    If you think that Pavlik throws a lot of leather....obtain footage of Hagler's fights and watch the difference! Pinpoint punches and ruthless to the body. Wonderful defense. A craftsman of his trade.

    Hagler would KO him in probably 2 or 3 rounds. Maybe less!
     
  3. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler would be too versatile for Pavlik, he was a better boxer and could slug also...Pavlik's height and reach would cause Hagler some trouble early, but Hagler would find a groove and start countering the basic 1-2 of Pavlik by the 4th rd...Pavlik would be stopped by the 9th...
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I was going to post the same exact thing........only in caps. No moron could really be stupid enough to pick Pavlik right???

    :huh
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I may be the biggest Pavlik nuthugger on this board, but the kid is only 25 years old. the BEGINNING of his ****ing PRIME is 2-3 years away. Why is this even a thread?
     
  7. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik has a big height advantage..he's a much bigger middleweight than hagler...pavlik is too big and hits too hard

    Not a fair matchup IMO
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    Pavlik is a good fighter, but Hagler was a great fighter who was very versatile and complete. Great jab, good power, good lateral movement, solid parrying skills, nice combos, terrific chin, etc...

    I wouldn't totally count Pavlik out, mainly because of the size advantage. Back in Hagler's prime, Pavlik wouldn't be fighting at middleweight because of different rules. We never saw how well Hagler could perform above middleweight.
     
  9. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's hard to say that any current middleweight would beat Hagler. He is an ATG. However, this is the sport of boxing and KP has proven to have very good to great power. He's KOed those who have not been KOed, so he surely would have a punchers chance. Stylistically, Hagler has the advantage. I like to compare KP to another NE Ohio athlete, Bernie Kosar. He didn't look pretty, but he got the job done.
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    Poor Bernie when he was in Cleveland....always getting eliminated in the playoffs against John Elway.
     
  11. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was never Bernie's fault. The fumble and the drive.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know, it wasn't.

    Plus I thought Ernest Byner got too much flack for the fumble. No guarantee they would've won in OT, not Byner's fault they fell down by 18 pts early on (and without him playing great, never would've been in a position to tie).
     
  13. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree...
     
  14. eltorrente

    eltorrente Active Member Full Member

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    I HATE any thread where "2Dumb4U" is arguing for one of his favorite fighters. The guy has to have the worst eye for talent in all of history.
     
  15. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: then you must explain why most of the prdictions about present fights are right ! What you should have said is you dont like 2smart making asses out of us all the time !:yep F---king moron !