Primes: Hagler versus Pavlik?

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Hagler Would have Destroyed Pavlik
    5th Rd T.K.O. (Beating)
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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  3. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler ko 1. It took taylor 2 rounds to hurt Pavlik. Hagler will do it faster and finish him.
     
  4. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Condsidering Pavlik was just schooled by a 43 year old HOFer...... Hagler by TKO 7.
     
  5. circleinsidebox

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    omg hagler wouldko or tko pavlik
    would try to go to war with him easily
    in the 1st or 2nd round
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And thi is what I think people are forgetting. Hagler has everything Taylor ever dreamed of having. You better believe if Hagler had Kelly hurt like Taylor did, there would be no chance for Kelly.

    Hagler KO 4

    By the way.. You gys do remember that Hagler was a boxer first, right?
     
  7. kracka81

    kracka81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hagler wins old ass hookins almost ko pavlik what u think hagler would have done to him
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    This is where many posters are getting this all wrong. Prime Haglar was a Boxer/Puncher, not a brawler. His style changed as he aged, but in his prime he prefered to box and move.

    Pavlik is more of a stalker than anything else. He's had one fight where he intentionally brawled, and that was Miranda. The plan going in was for Kelly to be the better bully, and it was the right plan.

    Kelly has been troubled by speed and movement combined with enough power to keep him honest. Haglar had all of that, but Kelly's real problems came at 170, not 160.

    Kelly would have an enormous height and reach advantage. Tommy Hearns is 6' 1" compared to Pavlik at 6' 2 1/2" Kelly is WAY more durable than Hearns was at 160. Hearns WANTED to go to war with Marvin. I don't think Pavlik has the same kid of psycholigical make-up.

    This would be more of a tactical fight than a brawl. Marvin would bob and weave, and use his great right jab to get inside. Pavlik would try to control the distance with his own jab, but he lacks the handspeed it would take to make that work consistenly against a prime Haglar. He also lacks the foot speed it would take to keep Marvin from closing the gap. Contrary to what many posters seem to think, this is no walk down primrose lane for Marvin. Kelly would have his moments, but in the end, Haglar takes him out in about 10 or 11 rounds. Call me crazy, but I do not think it would be a TKO. I think it would be a clean KO from Haglar landing a perfect straight left.
     
  9. jim22uk

    jim22uk Active Member Full Member

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    is this a joke hagler would make pavlik look stupid like hopkins did but only fish him in a embarassing manner ko inside 5 rounds
     
  10. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    well after Hopkins beat Pavlik it is easy to figure, but I notice this was put up before that fight. Before Hopkins fought Pavlik I said that Hagler would knock out Pavlik in round 5 of an exciting fight. After seeing the Hopkins fight I think Hagler would stop Pavlik in round 8 of a boring fight.
     
  11. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Hagler would have given Pavlik a mighty beating.
     
  12. markedwardscott

    markedwardscott Active Member Full Member

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    Hagler pretty easily. He was awesome in his prime.
     
  13. PolishPummler

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    :deal

    Hagler...that's my prediction 1 year and 3 months later:D
     
  14. TheSweetScience

    TheSweetScience Linares the next ATG!!! Full Member

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    Hagler would retire Pavlik. Go watch Hagler vs. Mugabi
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Welcome back !

    Both of you.