Primes: Hagler versus Pavlik?

The way Lacy blasted through 168 just showed how weak the division was. And still is.

 

:smoke YES but his poor power should have given HAGLER the green light to annilate him with the skill these guys are claiming he had ! PAV brings enough power to make HAGLER honest and with his apparent durability and physical attributes would be a very tough fight for anyone including MARVIN !:bbb

 

Actually Hearns did hurt Hagler in that first round. But of course Hagler's determination won the day.

 

Most here still haven't figured out that they cannot have it both ways. Either Taylor was good, and Pavlik was better OR Taylor was **** and a fraud, and Pavlik has done nothing spectacular or proven anything.

 

Owned. Again :hat

 

atsch He got cought with a hugh shot and still got up quick and survived ! And for the record I never claimed TAYLOR to be a bad champ ! last time I checked he beat one of the ALL TIME GREATS for the title !:yep And PAV distroyed him !

 

Mugabi had a better chin and a better punch than Pavlik, and it didn't help him much. Hearns had a better punch, more skill, more size, AND a wider punch variety than Pavlik. It helped him even less. And the reason Hagler didn't KO Vito is that lack of power is NOT the only variable. This is boxing, not rock-em-sock-em robots.

The guys who gave Hagler problems were smaller slickers, not big sluggers. And slick Pavlik is not.

 

HEARNS certainly didnt punch harder then PAV at middleweight so I just owned both of you for the stupid comparison !:hey

 

:nut :nut :nut

 

Whoa whoa....got up quick and recovered? He got up, survived after being wobbly and dazed for another full minute or so. He was seriously hurt by a guy who is not a huge puncher and is an average finisher. That shot was NOT huge. The shot he hit Taylor with was huge.....

 

MUGABI wasa better then PAV was he ! I beg to differ and he gave marv hell ! Spouting names and claiming the fighters are better is rediculous !

 

Umm...I never said he was better. I said he hit harder and had a better chin. Which he did.

Perhaps you should make your comparison a little more sophisticated than just "Pavlik hits harder". It will avoid Mugabi comparisons.

Once again, WHO IS THE FIGHTER WITH A JAB, POWER, HEIGHT, AND TWO FISTED ATTACK WHO GAVE MARVIN TROUBLE?

 

:yep PS the last time I checked MARV couldnt ko the best lightweights and welterweights he faced !

 

The last time I checked the BEAST was starched by a couple of guys and PAVLIK hasnt been so what the hell are you talking about ! And for the record PAVws power is being carried over to his a class competition and the BEASTS wasnt ! :hi:

 

Taylor apparently can't punch for **** either, seeing as he couldn't KO Spinks.

I do believe this makes Pavlik a glass-jawed bum, by definition.