Primes: Hagler versus Pavlik?

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  1. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler, by jockstrap weightage
     
  2. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch So HAGLER fought fighters with better power because YOU SAY SO ! Who were these guys ? HAGLER stuggled with much lesser fighters also so its perfectly rational to think this is a tough fight fort HAGLER ! :deal PS so I quess according to you the people who pick underdogs in current fights based on style are stupid becasue the fighters they picked werent proven ? PAVLIK has proven to me that he would be a nightmare for a guy like HAGLER with his size ans style ! And there is nothing irrational about that !
     
  3. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: Okay weight !
     
  4. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler TKO11 after a tough fight, and also it might be Hagler KO3 Pavlik if Pavlik doesn't take care of his defense.
     
  5. KhanB

    KhanB Active Member Full Member

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    Hagler. Cant say which round but whenever Pavlik lands a good punch and tries sticking his tounge out again, he's fcked.
     
  6. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope this thread is some kind of a joke. And those who predict Pavlik by KO are simply delusional.

    Hagler took the best shots of the best punchers of his era almost without noticing. Pavlik was in trouble already in the 2nd round with Taylor, who is nowhere close to Hearns or Mugabi in terms of punching power.

    He is not as skilled as SRL either, so getting a decision over Hagler is also out of question. Actually, I think just going full distance would be quite an achievement for him.
     
  7. majorer

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    If Hagler would knock out Pavlik in 5 seconds as someone said. The same Hagler would knock out Taylor in 4,5 seconds and Hopkins in 4,2 seconds.
    The same Hagler would knock out JOnes in 4,8 seconds and Tarver in 4,75 seconds.
    That is my opinion. And I am not afraid to say it like it is.


    Seriously how dare anyone post such a question. One thing is he, Pavlik, beat Taylor. I can not endure the thought that someone might argue that he had a chance against a prime Hagler. Dont even question that. You here me. Just dont go there. Dont rock my world. Allright. Good.
     
  8. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    have you ever seen Hagler-Hearns? You know how it ended
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I already told you, repeatedly. Hearns and Mugabi.

    Whereas you haven't asnwered my question at all. Which tall fighter with two fisted power and a good jab troubled Hagler?

    No, it isn't. Just because every fighter struggles from time to time, it doesn't mean that all fighters are equal.

    Hagler struggled against (and still beat) better fighters than Pavlik, and with more awkward styles than Pavlik. If you said "Pavlik vs. LaMotta" or "Pavlik vs. Zale", I'd see where you're coming from. But Hagler? Come on. Pavlik is tailor made for him.

    No.

    There is if it's not based on any facts. Pavlik did not display anything in his two significant fights against contenders that indicates Hagler would have a hard time with him. He doesn't even have the style to beat Hagler, since Hagler clobbered fighters who were similar to (and better than) Pavlik.

    Also remember that underdogs can sometimes win, but they generally lose. Pavlik is a big underdog here.
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Pavlik, but Hagler was the man.

    Now, Pavlik's height and length would give Hagler some issues, but so was Hearns' height and length going to give Hagler problems.

    I like Pavlik, but I have to give Hagler the nod. Could have been a great fight.
     
  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Taylor was an extremely good opponent.

    Give Pavlik time. He certainly has the potential to prove he belongs among history's top middleweights, and I hope he does. But he's not there yet.
     
  12. LennoxGOAT

    LennoxGOAT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler is an ATG, but people are blinded by him. He was not an indestructible force.
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This thread is a sin against humanity.
     
  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Sure, Hagler's beatable.

    But Pavlik is considerably moreso. And since we can select only one fighter in this fantasy matchup, we should go with the one who will probably win.
     
  15. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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