Primes: Wlad ~vs~ Lennox

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  1. Punisher33

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    Many people have already heard me give credit to Wlad for winning the Peter fight, it's probably the only time Wlad really impressed me and my perdiction was proven wrong. Wlad also clinched between 95-100 times in that fight, which some may look at as excessive, but in the end it payed off for him. I have seen the fight many times and watched it live when it was first broadcasted in september of 05, if you can honestly tell me there werent times in that fight where Wlad shown signs of imploding, I would call you liar. He had 2 or 3 panic attacks in that fight, where it looked like the Sanders fight all over again, but Peters inexperience and Manny's teachings, got him through to the end that night, to my surprise, I feel if that fight happend 2 years earlier, he would of lost badly.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    First of all, his name isn't PETERS... so please stop saying that over and over. It just shows your ignorance.

    What you are saying makes no sense. You are saying that Wlad panics when he gets hit, because his chin is glass? Glass chinned fighters don't panic when they get hit... they melt to the canvas and don't get up.

    Also, I think that you need to do your research before talking about elite fighters who have visited the canvas as many times as Wlad.

    Also... Brewster isn't a big puncher now? Derrick Jefferson and Calvin Brock have produced two of the most brutal knockouts that I have ever seen in my life. There is two more. McCline dropped the great chinned Byrd and the great chinned Peter... but couldn't drop Wlad. I could go on, but there is no point. You are a hater and just talk out of your ass.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I love how you guys throw the term "panic attack" around as if you are being serious. I hope you guys don't really believe what you are saying. If Wlad suffered a real panic attack, then he would have not made it out of the round. I have a cousin who suffers from them... and they aren't something that a boxer can box through. Let alone have 3 of them in one fight. It really makes you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about when you keep saying it.
     
  4. Fighting Weight

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    Yes but Lewis rematched his nemesis, and beat him comfortably. He did the same with the other guy that beat him. Now let's talk about WALDOS losses....

    If you seriously think the McCall stoppage was reasonable then you're beyond help. WALD was in a far worse state against Sanders and was given leeway.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

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    Dude....you can't say whether or not he WOULD HAVE or not if it was indeed a panic attack. You're cousin's reactions are completely irrelevent. I', going to take a wild guess you're cousin isn't a highly conditioned pro athglete. And NOT all panic attacks are the same anyway. There are varying degrees.

    HIs symptons were CONSISTENT with a panic attack...as usual..you got NOTHING.
     
  6. RUSKULL

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    I'm a fan of both but I think Wladimir keeps Lennox at bay with the better jab & Wlad has the power to keep Lewis off. Lewis has power too but he'd have to open up his defense to get his pucnhes off.

    Wladimir by close decision.
     
  7. Punisher33

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    The last part of your post I will argue with you about, Mccline fought very passive against Wlad, who had that time was looked at as invincible, I believe this fight took place in 02, which was before the whole Sanders implosion the following year. When you brought up the Zuri Lawrence knockout I had to laugh, the mans a walking knockout, He was like 20- 12 when he fought Brock, theres guy's noone even heard of that knocked him out, I few name guys that put him to sleep before Brock are Thompson, Iggy, and I think Guinn did a few years back.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

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    Better jab? I know BOTH guys have very good jabs, but is Wlad's really that much better? :huh

    Lewis had a MUCH larger arsenal of punches. I don't think that's debateable.
     
  9. RUSKULL

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    ...........and before some knob comes on here claiming that Lewis would easily KO Wlad remember that Wlad is the bigger man, with equal power & a better jab & he's never been KO'd only TKO'd where Lennox was KO'd by a single punch by Rahman.
     
  10. RUSKULL

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    Leiws had a much better uppercut but Wlad has a better jab - period. The jab sets up the power punches, especially from the outside, where this fight would be fought.
     
  11. Fighting Weight

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    Don't talk to me about ignorance, seriously.

    You obviously know nothing about glass chinned fighters, these guys get KO'd in sparring regularly and show timidness in the ring because of it. WALD falls into that category whenever he feels he is facing a dangerous opponent.

    As for elite fighters that have visited the canvas as often as WALD then go for it, name them. Name me some heavyweight ATG's that have tasted canvas 11 times by the age of 31 against mostly bums...feel free to prove me wrong :good

    McCline dropped the 'great chinned Byrd' and the 'great chinned Peter' great chinned by who's standards?? Byrd is an overrated joke in anyone who knows anything about heavyweight boxing, the only people that rate this fool are WALD fans.....I wonder why :think
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    Like I asked, is it really much better then Lewis' jab? Or even better enough to make a difference?

    Hell, if Wlad was so tentative against Sultan, do you think he'd be any different against someone like Lewis?
     
  13. Fighting Weight

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    WALD is only 1 inch taller, it means nothing. Lewis was the stronger, heavier man - and he had NO difficulty in beating the bigger stronger Klit brother when he was at his very worst. Lewis KO1, take it to the bank.
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

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    Bigger? They are too close to say who's really bigger. I'll tell you who's a smarter fighter, Lewis.
     
  15. Fighting Weight

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    Bull****. Lewis would get on the inside from the off, and WALD would fold. Easy as that....Lewis KO1.