Primo Carnera looks good here

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  1. he grant

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    I've been asking that for years ...
     
  2. he grant

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    And what great fighter did he display this against ?
     
  3. Swarmer

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    Surely mormeck's brilliant defensive mastery is easy for all to see. His squared stance where he's attempting to parry punches with his face. Have you ever seen this kind of head movement from a cruiserweight? Leading with left hooks, just like the boxing textbook says.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyUzTGp9S-s[/ame]
     
  4. TheGreatA

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    He also had impressive stamina to last atleast 4 rounds until being absolutely gassed.

    This bum certainly had nothing on the Mormeck legend:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYz_e9WnGjc[/ame]
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Haye's weakness is against smaller opponents at mid range because he doesn't punch short enough, so the likes of Mormeck/Frag were going to press him there. Pressure also bothers him as his stamina is poor. Anyone who boxes him from distance and doesn't press him will have problems though

    Not great wins BUT Gurov was a Euro champ - granted blown out before - still a decent first round KO. Bonin was level pegging Audley and stopped on a BS stoppage in R9 - he turned his back but wasn't hurt or giving up. Kelly was an LHW contender. Then he stopped Barrett, Ruiz and away. He had Valuev on shaky legs and we hadn't seen that before. He's certainly got a good power and speed ratio and at the end of the day out of his 25 wins put away 23 of them

    He looks better in this fight than others, he has technical weaknesses (so does Haye), but I think Haye's better athleticism beats him, I think Haye's jab and counter is harder than Loughran's jab and spoiling. He has a good crouch/shoulder roll but he's still there to be hit. I question his toughness though, I think against better opponents that can hit him, he'll get deterred

    But he does keep his hands up ;) Sharkey never got ko'd
     
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  7. Swarmer

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    a peek a boo defense only works if you're not letting them hit you squarely in the face 90% of the time, as far as i can tell with my limited understanding of boxing technique
     
  8. TheGreatA

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    The story of the fight is that Sharkey wanted to taunt and embarrass his former rival Jim Maloney whose style he felt he had completely worked out by their last match. Usually he kept his hands up higher.

    Sharkey putting together some combos against Schmeling:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=162Qk7ARqNY[/ame]

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  9. criceto

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    But look at his build: he was very wide and mighty, with the modern training methods and lifting weights he would be at least 240 pounds.
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  10. janitor

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    Max Baer somtimes had to turn sideways on when passing through a door.

    Today you could make him nto a solid 230lb heavyweight.
     
  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Baer had an ideal boxer's physique but I do not see the reason why he would have to weigh any more than he did, which was around 210 pounds at his best.

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  12. janitor

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    Because some people would rate him more highly by virtue of weighing more.

    In some cases, to the extent that they would rate him more highly if he put on 10lbs of fat.
     
  13. TheGreatA

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    He did and it did not work out too well for him. Even a 225 pound Baer looked better than most of today's 225 lbers mind you.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=begybILjnuQ[/ame]
     
  14. janitor

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    This man was criticised for his lack of work ethic back then.

    What would they have said about Sam Peter?
     
  15. TheGreatA

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    They would have made a gimmick out of it as they did with Galento. Have him participate in eating contests and openly make fun of his girth. Galento in his best shape was no worse than Ruslan Chagaev.