Primo Carnera TKO 9 Ray Impelletiere 1935

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  1. reznick

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    Carnera would be world class today. Right now.
     
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    Said none of his top level opponents ever.
     
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    You guys want to see what modern SHWs look like from 1930s camera angles?

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    Joe Louis would tap dance circles around them.

    The hype of the fight, and the production quality has people near sighted.
    Exit the matrix, and see things for what they are.
     
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    Look, nobody is questioning that Klitschko was better.

    Klitschko dominated an era, while Carnera was just a place holder champion.

    That doesn't mean that we cannot look at Klitschko critically when comparing him to Carnera.
     
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    And now, Carnera again

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    Who? Sharkey hammered him 14 round to 1 when he was near his prime. Sharkey was fat and washed up by 1933 when the rematch took place

    Carnera didn't beat loughran by fighting on the outside

    Gains easily outboxed carnera

    Leroy Haynes exposed carnera weak chin
     
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    Sharkey did say that.
    The quote has been posted in this thread numerous times.
    The rest of your points are non sequitur and make as much sense as Primos carnival shows.
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

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    Sharkey had flab all over his body when he fought carnera in 33. He was going to lose his title no matter whom he fought that night.

    Primo was a circus act, plenty of evidence of many fixed fights
     
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    Flab?
    Have you been watching boxing these last 20 years?

    Circus act frauds do not win lineal straps, and defend them twice.
    You might as well believe in the tooth fairy.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    Sharkey in his prime was very well built. That was nowhere near the prime version of Sharkey whom carnera defeated. That's the point I'm making.

    We don't know how many fixed fights carnera was involved in but their were plenty
     
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    If this is a post everyone on classic is going to "like" than what exactly is the disagreement we all seem to have in regards to Primo again?
     
  15. reznick

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    Yeah well Primo sent him to the rafters with one of the most brutal uppercuts I have ever seen in boxing.
    I don't know how much a man can decline in that span of time, but he seems to blame Carneras improvements for his loss.

    We don't really know much about the fixed fight accusations.

    Here is what we do know:
    He won the title.
    Defended it twice.
    Received positive peer appraisals from the likes of Max Schmeling, Joe Louis, Max Baer, Jim Jeffries, Benny Leonard, Jack Sharkey, Ray Arcel, and more.

    To hang onto fixed fight accusations as a means to judge him as a fighter in lue of the aforementioned points, means you must be a drama hungry ignoramus. You'd have to love eating up the stories of oafish giants with metal teeth and mob ties, judging them negatively in your mind, in order to be blinded by such obvious underlying facts about his abilities as a boxer, and take it to a level that reality doesn't merit.
     
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