Primo Carnera versus Mike Dokes

Dokes too tough, too fast for the man mountain. Doke s take's him apart before 10.

 

Dokes durability was excellent in his prime. He took big shots from Weaver with no drama and took numerous bombs from Gerrie Coetzee before succumbing. He'd been on cocaine a couple of days prior to the fight as well. Even after the drug abuse he took plenty from Evander Holyfield years later before being stopped. He was well past his best even then tho it was one of his finest efforts. By the time he was stopped by Ruddock and Bowe he was old man river.

Carnera's power, or lack of it wouldn't overly bother him. Guys like Weaver hit much harder.

 

Why was Primo called "the Ambling Alp"?

 

Why bother with facts ?

 

Does would dice him to pieces ..

 

Dokes would have whipped him. ko in 4.

 

Dokes would use his superior boxing ability and tremendous speed to kayo Carnera in 8.

 

Poor Primo

 

Naïve allegory

 

I'll take the fat coke Dokes who lost to Bowe but with the mystery bottle of I'll assume cocaine water from Lewis cornering Pryor vs Arguello...

 

I really think that Carnera should be favorite here.

Dokes was very talented, but he was a hot and cold fighter, who could come up short against any elite opponent.

Carnera was a very consistent performer in his prime, who only lost to the people he should have lost to.

Dokes seems to be the kind of fighter who might have beaten Primo, but probably wouldn't on balance.

 

So your case for favoring Carnera rests entirely on Dokes' apparent inconsistency and the chance he'd come in cold (rather than hot).

I suggest this because the only other point you make is that Dokes came up short against "any elite opponent" and we know Carnera wasn't really one of those. So, Dokes' chances are looking good, as long as he's riding a peak, rather than a trough.

 

That seems like a fairly good argument.

If this was a fight happening tomorrow, we would factor in the consistency of the participants.

 

Well Carnera was a lineal heavyweight champion, which is something that Dokes never achieved.

He also had more wins over ranked opposition.

If Carnera is not an elite opponent, then Dokes must be a bum!