Primo Carnera vs Andy Ruiz

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol:
     
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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    ...... sure it doesn't.
     
  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I suspect, there are hundreds of Heavyweights, who have passed through the top-10 ratings, since Primo's time. I also suspect that the majority of them could fair well against Carnera.

    In addition to this, there are probably quite a number, who were never quite recognized in the ratings, but could beat Carnera, too.

    Carnera fared reasonably, with a little help, in an era when the average weight of a Heavyweight was less than 200lbs. Even then, he was beaten by capable men of that kind of size.

    From a cross-era perspective, his advantages would diminish over time and, in terms of his capability, outside of bringing his size advantage to bear, he just really wasn't that good.
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do we have any evidences that average HW weighed below 200 lbs in the 1930s?
     
  5. NoNeck

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    Yes. It’s been posted here but I won’t look it up.
     
  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd like to see the stats then.
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see, how anyone could possibly know, how much the average HW weighed in the 1930s!

    But if we look at The Ring's EOY rankings, we find 53 different men listed in their Top-10 during that decade:

    The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: Heavyweight--1930s - BoxRec

    Of these, 40 weighed under 200 lbs (using their last bout, from the first year they appeared in the rankings).
     
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, it won't tell us anything about the average weight, but it's better than nothing.

    I will try to make some calculation when I find enough time in near future, but this week is very busy.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Fat boy would butcher Carnera, like he did to AJ in the first fight.
     
  10. UltimateDestroyer

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    It's stalemate in battle of the biggest appetites.
     
  11. reznick

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  12. MarkusFlorez99

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    Even a shot Arreola is still better than lumbering oaf Carnera.
     
  13. fists of fury

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    I think Chris fought well against Ruiz. He came in in better shape than he has in years.
     
  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both fought well. Was a fun fight (hated the camera work though). Didn’t do much for the Ruiz myth but he looked Sharp despite his early knock down. Still needs to lose another twenty pounds or so.
     
  15. janitor

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    Hyperbole aside, he obviously isn't.

    Draw the obvious conclusions!