Primo Carnera vs. James J. Braddock

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are some problems in your reasoning:

    1. Sharkey wasn't a puncher, he didn't hit that hard and didn't have a style built around his power.
    2. Sharkey wasn't the most durable HW of his era, he could be stopped.
    3. Sharkey relied heavily on his ability to box and his outstanding defense.

    Braddock was good boxer, but he was much more limited than Sharkey. In fact, Braddock was good mostly because of his durability. He likely hit harder than Sharkey too, although it's arguable.

    Prime for prime, Sharkey was much better boxer and fighter than Braddock:

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  2. janitor

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    At his best, he would absolutely clown him!

    It would be like the Loughran fight at heavyweight.

    Of course Sharkey was not the most consistent soul, and he was capable of losing to a man like Braddock!
     
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  3. Berlenbach

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    Carnera did KO Sharkey as well. Braddock also had many more losses and draws against ordinary opponents than Carnera did, so if they could do it, so could he. Obviously it wouldn't be a major upset if Braddock won, just fancy Carnera here.
     
  4. William Walker

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    Well, generally I would agree. Sharkey was much more well-rounded, while Braddock was good at only a few things. But what Braddock was good at, he excelled at. Sharkey was just a good cerebral boxer.
     
  5. William Walker

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    that depends on whether or not you think it's a fix
     
  6. mr. magoo

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    I gotta go with Carnera
     
  7. William Walker

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    please explain Mr. Goo
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    I think Primo Carnera for all his shortcomings was a better boxer than Max Baer or Jim Braddock himself. He had a pretty good jab and plenty of height and reach to utilize it. I just see him outpointing Braddock possibly for a decision.
     
  9. William Walker

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    Ok. I can see how a fighter who's not that good who's big and has a good jab can outpoint a superior fighter.
     
  10. Berlenbach

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    Looked legit to me.
     
  11. William Walker

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    I though it was legit, too, I was just saying a lot of people think it was a fix.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    I’m not totally sold on the idea that Braddock was “ superior.” I’m not arguing against it either but I don’t see a clear distinction.
     
  13. William Walker

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    Carnera just seems clumsy 2 me.