Primo Carnera vs the contenders

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  1. mcvey

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    Except lack of top power and a sh*t chin, pretty important qualities to have.
     
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  2. mcvey

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    Only the 3rd worst?
     
  3. mcvey

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    Only the 3rd worst?
    35 must represent a nadir for lack of quality after the first 5.
     
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  5. choklab

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    Nobody says Joe Frazier had a bad chin because every time he went down he got back up. The same can be said of Primo. Max Baer and Joe Louis knocked a lot of people over for keeps. Primo kept getting up. He was stopped on his feet.

    How is Primo getting knocked down so many times against Baer anymore embarrassing than Foreman decking Frazier?
     
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  6. choklab

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    I would put Primo above Page, Rahman,mccall Tubbs, Coetzee, Bruno, Botha, dokes, smith, berbick, Thomas, Tucker, Briggs, Tate, Bennt, Morrison, Moorer, Leon Spinks, Ernie Terrell, Marvin Hart, old Foreman, jimmy Braddock and level with Jack Sharkey. His resume deserves it.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Choklab, post: 18562637, member: 50845"]Nobody says Joe Frazier had a bad chin because every time he went down he got back up. The same can be said of Primo. Max Baer and Joe Louis knocked a lot of people over for keeps. Primo kept getting up. He was stopped on his feet.

    How is Primo getting knocked down so many times against Baer anymore embarrassing than Foreman decking Frazier?[/QUOTE]
    Wrong ,many question Frazier's chin since the only real puncher he faced used him as a yo yo.
    Carnera was dropped by Sharkey whose ko% is 24% 3 of his13 ko wins were over lightheavies, Sharkey never dropped a top heavyweight ! And Young Stribling do you think either could drop Frazier? Carnera was stopped twice by journeyman Leroy Haynes.Could Haynes do that to Frazier?
     
  8. mcvey

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    Yes we know you have called him a great fighter that's your prerogative.I just don't take you seriously
     
  9. mcvey

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    If Carnera fought Cleveland Williams I would put my house on the Big Cat stopping him!
     
  10. choklab

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    If you bet your house on Cleveland Williams I would lend you my tent and camping stove when it all goes wrong...
     
  11. mcvey

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    If Leroy Haynes could stop Carnera


    TWICE!

    Williams blows him away!
     
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  12. choklab

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    If Ali could knock Williams as flat as a pancake I can't see why Primo can't.

    If your going to use the version of Primo from the Haynes fight to demonstrate and amplify his deterioration then I find it's just as fair to use the Williams of the Ali fight. After all this was the only time Williams operated on the world title stage.

    By 1936 Primos body was breaking down on him, it's very well documented.
     
  13. Man_Machine

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    Do you honestly see Primo putting his punches together like Ali did against Williams?
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Peak Big Cat all the way.

    Carno had a solid career in an era badly lacking depth for mine.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    He does. For sure.