Primo Carnera vs Tony Tucker

It's ironic, the only reason Primo Carnera got a reputation for being a lousy champion is because of his dodgy barnstorming tour when he first came to the USA, where the mob matched him with tomato cans and dive artists ...... and in this match he's basically up against a man who did the same thing even less impressively !

If Carnera was a joke, Tucker was a bigger joke.

 

Neither man was a spectacular technician and neither was terribly aggressive or destructive. Both were giants, with Primo being the slightly larger of the two, while Tucker may have been a tad more mobile.. Carnera probably beat more ranked men, but also lost to men of lesser quality than Tucker.... Carnera's jab may have been superior but tucker's combinations were a tad more well rounded.... Both were durable, but i think I'll give the edge to Tucker in that department..

CONCLUSION: Not sold on either man one way or the other, but I may give Tony a shot at winning a close decision.

 

You can say whatever you please. It doesn't even make it close to being true.

 

this is about the way I see it but would not be surprised if Primo did it.

 

Now are you talking Prime Primo?

 

Tucker would crush him ... the comparisons are funny.

 

Jherri curl, slick, athletic takes the day...

 

Glass-Jaw Carnera was DROPPED 10 TIMES in 12 Rounds by a CRUDE-CAVEMAN! :rofl:rofl

"Nat Fleischer (inThe Ring, August 1934, page 47) claimed that Carnera was floored three times in round one, twice in round two (Carnera dragging Baer down both times). once in round three, and several more times in the last two rounds. Fleischer's account is not entirely clear and it appears that one or two paragraphs at the end may have been deleted by accident. Other accounts indicate that Carnera was down twice in round 10 and twice more in round 11, which would make a total of 10 knockdowns. Fleischer had Carnera winning rounds four, seven, and eight, Baer winning all of the others."

IMAGINE Carnera taking teh NUKES Tucker took from Lenny Lewis!!

LEFT, RIGHT, GOODNIGHT! :dead

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Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke

 

Carnera did not just fight barnstomer fodder either, about 25 or so of his fights were against rated contenders, some he knocked out. Primo knocked out schaff, sharkey, neusel and handled Godfrey and uzcudun. His resume is pretty good during a very competative time.

when you think about it tucker had split decisions with orlin norris and oliver mcCall- this was tuckers level. A fair class heavyweight, just as manufactured as primo.yes he beat douglas but who was douglas when that happened?

THe fights that made tucker famous were fights he lost. he was brought along very, very slowly on the same old soldiers bruno and tyson fed from. chuck gardner, walter santemore, lupe Guerra, bobby Crabtree, Dave jaco. there were other opponents with records like 0-15, 10-30, 0-5, characters with names like fred farmer and charles atlas - basically all from "getta win.com."

bottom line is tuckers record was only 50-50 with pros anyone had heard of. known fighters Tucker beat represent a smaller percentage of his overall record than carneras.

 

There's a lot to compare with the two.
Both fought a lot of tomato cans and dive artists.
Both had manufactured careers, Tucker more so than Carnera.

 

Exactly. :good

In Carnera's day that kind of thing caused a scandal.
In the 1980s it dips under the radar until Tucker turns up on TV again with a 30-0 record and a world ranking, and no one has a clue.

 

The Sharkey fight is seen as highly dubious, the Schaaf fight was a tragedy waiting to happen,[ Schaaf went down from a light jab].
Neusal retired with a cut eye.

Who are these other rated heavyweights that Carnera kod?

 

At the time, who said the Sharkey KO was dodgy ?

I'm not sure what happened with Schaaf, maybe that punch wasn't as "light" as assumed. Schaaf's head snapped back quite violently.

Anyway, a 24 minute version of the fight film is here :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmi9xs_primo-carnera-vs-ernie-schaaf-1933-02-10_sport


Interesting, nowadays I don't think they would ever produce and release the fight film (or DVD, or TV repeat) of a fight where a guy recently died.
But in 1933 it was probably quite a hit.

 

Though I agree very much with that statement, Tucker had decent wins over Broad, and a very good Douglas, along with a decent showing against the best version of Tyson. These efforts, along with victories over McCall and Norris made for decent set of pelts. I'm not sure Carnera has even that much depth to his resume, probably about even.