Primo Carnera vs Tyson Fury

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Nandrolone was a first generation steroid. Came out in the 1950's. It's a bit suspicious to me when a world class athlete, with world class resources, comes up dirty for something like this. Tho perhaps everything old is new again these days. I know that Roger Clemens supposedly used it, too.
     
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  3. janitor

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    No you couldn't.

    Not objectively.

    He basically beat nobody before he won the title.

    I am sorry but nobody would give Carnera any credit today for beating the like for like equivalents of Chisora, Johnson, Hammer or Cunningham.

    So Fury beats the dominant heavyweight champion of his era, and then disappears into the ether.

    He might yet come back, but I don't think that he will get anywhere particularly close to his previous form, so it will tell us nothing.

    Fury is going to go down in history as the heavyweight division's enigma!

    At least you got to see it as it happened.
     
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  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's rather simple, Fury's team have the mentality of it's us against the world attitude. They want to do things their own way, to stay on top of drug testing you need to work with the professionals. I wouldn't be surprised if his Dad injected him himself whilst watching a step-by-step video on YouTube......
     
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  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury would win easy.If you gave Carnera Peter Fury in his OWN era you would have seen a vastly different fighter since P.Fury is great at training Hw's.
     
  6. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury would get through Primos guard just as Baer did with the same results.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You were the person I discussed it with a few months back.

    We've had this debate once already lol
     
  8. janitor

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    Head to head you can argue it either way, but in terms of resume it is Carnera all the way, even though Fury has the best single win.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Mate we've danced this dance before haha
     
  10. Reason123

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  11. mcvey

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    When I look for a winner H2H I ask myself
    1.Who can win this by out boxing his man?
    2. Who can win this by out punching his man?
    In both cases Primo comes up in the negative imo.
    87 fight Carnera was outboxed for the first few rounds by 7-3-0 Impelletiere whose overall record is very underwhelming ,he isn't out jabbing Fury ,and he was no banger. I think Carnera would have problems with Alexander Ustinov!
     
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  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    And that makes it better how?

    You never saw Joe Louis do it. Even Leon Spinks never punched himself in the face.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What has this to do with the thread?
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Who are you quoting here mr M?
     
  15. BoboFett

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    Does Compubox count that as landed?:lunchacos: