Primo Carnera vs Tyson Fury

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    They are called PEDs because they enhance performance. Strength is only part of it.

    It improves recovery which also benefits reactions and focus. In a round about way more skill can be mastered and applied in a more consistent way. If muscles recover they can develop speed beyond what was previously capable. And we all know these programs help with bulking up.

    So this mobility, skill, speed and fluidity you credit Tyson Fury with could be entirely down to a career of juicing. We can't say it's not.
     
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  2. GordonGarner65

    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, Fury's 'retirement' is ENTIRELY down to drugs issues.
     
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  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I believe so too.
    I heard he was looking at a ban so he's taking a "retirement"...I'm sure the nervous breakdown is completely coincidental.
     
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    GordonGarner65 Active Member Full Member

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    Its a little tenous,but a work colleague of mine from the construction industry, is from a family of travellers. He knows people who know the family. I understand that all sounds a little vague, but my friend is a solid guy and he told me several months ago that Fury was lying low because he has little choice. Fury has boxed from a young age and hit the jackpot with his win over Klitschko. He loves the limelight and was in great shape to cash in. He's a guy with enormous self belief. Theres no other explanation for the current situation. My guess is this time next year his comeback will be announced.
     
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  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Im a true MASTER of the game not student! As a matter of fact i cant wait till i heal so i can show more videos when im actually healthy. you can claim what you want ive been around some great fighters of all areas i live it....most on here can only guess and talk about it!
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Then why is he training Fury instead of you?
     
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  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Im betting you never even stepped in the gym kid. Have you even sparred before?Im guessing NO...have you fought guys that compare you to Wilder?i have! Have you ANY boxing backround and ties?I DO? Well I'll wait..................Did you actaully fight any world champions or spar them ?I have...again i'll wait on you.....want top play games o.k....NOOB!
     
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Where do you get off on saying this?

    Luf is entitled to his opinion, in matters of boxing history it is not a requirement to have been a boxer or a boxing trainer. Some of the best boxers I know are an awful judge of boxing. And there are and have always been complete idiots high up in boxing. So You can't pull rank like that. Comparison to Wilder or not.

    I really don't have a problem with non boxers having input. He's not telling you that he knows what it feels like to take punches is he? He's not claiming to draw opinion from experience either.
     
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  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    luf is a trolling baffoon! i will pull rank to whoever wants it,come get some! GTFO with the belittling B.S. I LET it go ALOT in this section ive even been challenged to fight only to laugh to myself what a terrible mistake that person would be making! The only thing he has right is CRAZY in his name. lol
     
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  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    It's the same thing I heard.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    I have been in a gym.

    I have sparred.

    No one has compared me to Wilder.

    I have no ties to boxing.

    I have not fought any world champions
     
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  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So then maybe you should THINK before you TRY and be witty! :flipa:
     
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  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I don't think many deliberately troll on here, I think people believe their own stuff and debate over what they base it on. Some of it is based on thin stuff but that's their prerogative to be stubborn. I have theories but they're just theories and so is a lot of the more established theory that is accepted as fact.

    You think Peter Fury is that last word on boxing. That's your theory, but I remember when it was Adam Booth who was the new last word on boxing, I remember when Enzo Calzaghe was the new genius. There's been a million geniuses in boxing. It is not a difficult sport to master from a coaching standpoint if you do it full time. Especially when there are so many idiots doing it. A regular guy who is reliable is a rare thing in boxing. It don't take much to stand out. Even then All these genius guys come and go. Why is that? Because fighters come and go.

    So this stuff about I am right and I know I am right will come and go. Just like everything else.
     
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  14. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    you are another one...a STORY teller ...i bet you were great at those add libs or whatever you call them? The entire post you posted ( as usual) doent fit anything i posted. thats bc you ran out of any logical thing to ACTUALLY post to me. :aplastao:
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Did I ,at any point suggest you were a student? You are a "true master of the game"? Well that's absolutely fine.
    That being the case, I am sure we can all benefit from your wisdom.
    I'm not around great fighters myself,and I claim nothing ,a cursory glance at my posts on this thread will confirm this.
    Apart from the fact that "self praise is no recommendation",why are you trying so hard to convince me of your bona fide credentials.I haven't attacked you in any way, nor do I ,"GAS" who you are or what you have done.!"

    Do you seriously think posting clips of you hitting the heavy bag is impressing anyone? Mate, why would we care?
     
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