Primo Carnera

In case anybody is wondering what Primo Carnera is up to today.

http://www.carnera.org/

 

Leon See founded the French boxing comission.

 

Here is what Loughran said before the bout.

'I'll Outspeed Carnera,' Say Loughran,
Predicting Footwork Will Decide Bout ​

Philadelphia, PA
January 22, 1934
Loughran stated: 'When the final bell sounds I may be tired--I may be so fatigued that I will appear unable to hold up my arms--but before the match ends I will have given my all in my extreme efforts to take the title from Carnera.'
Loughran admits that he has been tired at the finish of ten-round bouts. 'But it isn't because I can't go a longer distance,' he explained. 'When I pace myself for ten rounds I give everything I have in that time. For fifteen I'll pace myself accordingly and will have all the necessary speed to show to advantage right on through to the final sound of the bell.'
Never Bothered by Wind
'In previous fifteen-round bouts,' added Loughran, 'my wind never bothered me. I would get my second wind along about the tenth round and then would breeze right on through the remaining five frames.
'Say, when the fifteenth sounds against Carnera I'll be just as strong as he is. However, at the closing bell--well, maybe I won't be so strong, but it'll all be over then.'
Loughran isn't worried in the least about the big difference in weight. 'I'll scale around 185, maybe a pound or so lighter,' said the former light-heavyweight champion. 'Suppose there is a difference of seventy pounds or so. What about it? It won't mean anything. Speed--speed, that's what will mean everything. Speed will win that fight and I'll outspeed that big Carnera fellow.'
When Tommy boards a train at Thirtieth Street Wednesday at noon he will be given a rousing sendoff by his Philadelphia friends. Several hundred are expected to be at the station to wish him luck and hope he returns 'with the bacon.'
Houghton in Camp
Loughran's manager, Joe Smith, and his chief spar-mate, Eddie Houghton, already are at Tommy's Palm Beach training camp. Turc Duncan, who will be in charge of the place, leaves next Sunday. Tom will start sparring next Monday.
In addition to Houghton, Smith has made definite arrangements to have Jack Pettifer, giant English scrapper, and Jack Hogan, of New York, act as Loughran's shock absorbers. It also is possible that Joe will accept Ray Impellitierre as a spar-mate for Loughran.
'Ray will be in Florida,' said Loughran, 'and he has offered to work with me. But it will be entirely up to Smith as to whom my sparring partners will be.'
Impellitierre, who recently was defeated by Loughran in New York, is even taller than Carnera. It was on the strength of his victory over Ray that Tommy was chosen as challenger for the February 22 championship match.
'They didn't think I could lick Impellitierre,' laughed the good-looking Loughran. 'Well, I did. And I'm going to lick Carnera, too, even though there are many who don't think I can.'

 

Janitor...so basically in a nutshell you're saying that Carnera was actually a good fighter, but somehow, someway, this was lost on leading historians and reporters of the time.
And to say Odd and Fleischer had biases? And to insinuate that other boxing writers simply ape and mimic the popular opinion?

It's in black and white (thanks Mcvey) that Joe Louis clearly didn't rate Carnera...and yet you still carry on that he was held in high esteem by Louis.

Well, I'm glad you've educated us on the great Carnera conspiracy for the bald-faced lie it's been all this time. I might have been fooled into believing what all those silly old biased historians were telling for years and years.

 

What have I got as primary evidence? Film for one, and the opinions of virtually every boxing writer that's ever lived.

If you have a different opinion then that's okay by me, but don't go throwing accusations around is if it were fact. You don't know that Fleischer or Odd or any other writer was biased against Primo. Why would they be? It's pure speculation on your part without a shred of concrete evidence.

 

PS-This is a Carnera thread, that's why we're limiting it to him, but I don't think for a second he was the only one who was 'connected' during that period.