Primo Carnera's Average Opponent in Today's Division Compared to Tyson Fury's & Cruiserweight Skew

(NOTE: This thread does not even imply that weight, as a whole, does not matter. It is only questioning it's values at certain extremes)

I took only the opponents that weighed over 200lbs (because the rest would be Cruisers by today's classes). Keep in mind this is ONLY 201+. Anyone 201-210 could EASILY cut a but of weight to hit cruiser. I also only used heights from those who were 200+lbs, so, say, 6'2" Joe Louis didn't make it in. I will be comparing it to the resume of Tyson Fury, one of the heavyweight champs currently. I rounded 3/4rds up and 1/4rds down for weight and height.


Primo Carnera average opponent:

Opponents: 57 (no repeats were allowed)

Average weight: 220lbs

Heaviest: 331lbs

Average height: 6'3"

Tallest: 6' 9 1/2" - 10"

Average reach: 81" (6'11") (slightly skewed due to lack of info)

Longest Reach: 88" (7'4")


Tyson Fury average opponent:

Opponents: 27 (only 1 weighed below 200, they were factored out)

Average weight: 232lbs (keep in mind, much less 201-210 opponents due to Cruiserweight existing)

Heaviest: 261 (Fury, at his heaviest, would be heavier)

Average height: 6'3"

Tallest: 6'7" (never fought someone taller than himself)

Average reach: 80"


The average heavyweight of Tyson's resume was 6'3", 215lbs (which could be explained by Cruiserweight being 190lbs back then), his heaviest opponent being 271lbs, heavier than Fury's, lighter than Carnera's. (Credit to my old thread https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/some-interesting-averages-about-heavyweight-champions.613618/)

Interestingly enough, beforehand, all heavyweight champions I researched had an average opponent of 6' 1/2" - 1 1/2" 190-200lbs 77"-78" reach, including Muhammad Ali, Jack Johnson, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano. Some stats actually dipping after Johnson's era. (Again, credit to my old thread)

After the death of Earnie Schaaf at the hands of Canera himself, there was threats and outcry for a "super dreadnaught" division, much like what we describe the "super heavyweight" division today, with the new Cruiserweight division

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Primo_Carnera_vs._Ernie_Schaaf


It can be argued that the "super heavyweight" division dominance came about due to the addition of the Cruiserweight division. The Cruiserweight division giving 175-200 (really around 180-210) fighters an escape route, and vice versa for the supposed super heavies. Every time there are a few good big heavyweights, there is media outcry for a new division, the only difference is that the 1930s heavyweight division did not give into this somewhat ingnorant cry. In the same light as how big punchers are often overvalued, possibly good performances by larger individuals are overvalued as well.

In conclusion, remember that 5'11"-6'3" 180lbs-220lbs fighters have always dominated the division beforehand, with few strays (in both directions, usually genetic freaks such as Jess Willard and Sam Langford). The addition of steroids must also be considered, as well as 12 rounds.

"They (the Klitschkos) are remarkable, because big guys don't make good fighters... The muscles demand more oxygen, they're not as agile... I like the pocket sized heavyweights" -Angelo Dundee

 

Nothing? I expected some sort of counter argument at the very least