Prince Naseem Hamed: A Career Retrospective

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I don't think winning the WBA, WBO and IBF World Championships and beating the WBC champ, making £30 million ($65 million) before you are 30 and being one of the best British fighters ever, counts as "blowing it" but I understand the point you are trying to make.
     
  2. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    I picked Barrera to beat Naz easily way before the fight. I remember when Barerra lost to Jones and all my friends were dissing me telling me how Barerra wasnt that good and Naz would KO him. To me Naz could of sparred 100 rounds he wasnt beating Barerra just as he wouldnt of beat Morales.
     
  3. chuffy

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    No problem ,credit where credit is due, well done :good

    I remember watching Naz years ago, he created excitment where ever he went, he was always one of my favourites, incredibly exciting, and in my opinion very underrated.

    He had a fatastic run, beat alot of top contenders, champions, held major belts, was the number one man for many years.

    Unfortunalty, as with many things, you're always remembered for the bad, and not the good.

    He failed to come back and rematch Marco, that's a serious mark on his career, i think he let himself down, and more importantly his fans.

    I think his confidence was hit to the point where there was clearly no return, he was never the same again, the belief was gone for ever, which is very sad from a fans point of view.

    All in all, he should of used the man in your avatar as inspiration.

    Lennox dared to be great, his confidence was unshakable, taking an immediate rematch with Rahman, this paid of tremendously.

    I respect that confidence and belief.

    Him leaving the sport like he did, left alot of people wondering, left alot of questions unanswered, even now, and i'm sure in many years to come, what if ? just how good could he have been ?
     
  4. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Yeah no doubt Naz was successful. What was disappointing was the way he just crumbled after that loss. Barerra lost to Jones twice and then didnt get a decision in the 1st Morales fight but he didnt quit. Naz didnt lost to Barrera which was no disgrace and then decided to pack it in.
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly. Although I don't really feel a huge sense of disapointment, or "what if's" (not all the time anyway) Naz was a unique fighter, had a better career than most. I wonder if he ever explained in an interview why exactly he quit, I would like to here his reasons from his own mouth, would be interesting.
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Agreed, I think he just got sick of training, fighting endlessly, the enjoyment was gone.
    Apparently Manny Steward said Naz only sparred twelve rounds in the training camp before Barrera, I think he was losing interest fast as far back as Vasquez, see the press conference, Naz looks like a manic depressive!
     
  7. chuffy

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    I was dissapointed after the fight, and for a while to be honest.

    I thought Naz would win, but was always cautious to the fact of what Marco was capable of doing.

    I first saw Barerra fight, when he took apart a very useful fighter by the name of Paul (Live Wire) Lloyd

    He was dispatched with ease, it was clinical the way he took him apart, i'd never seen anything like it.

    On a completly different note, i think the only way he accepts the defeat is by saying he lost, but lost with dignity.

    He wasn't knocked out, he wasn't stopped, or floored, he lost on points.

    He'll probably tell you this was one of the worst performances of his career as well.

    If you haven't seen that Paul Lloyd fight, try and track it down.

    It use to be on youtube but was taken down, otherwise i would of posted it up for you.
     
  8. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the barrera fight was weird. he barely even resembled himself in the way he fought. i blame manny stewart and the way naz handled himself in training camp
     
  9. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    It was farce when Naz was using 2 trainers. That was one of the stupidest things I have seen a fighter do.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    same in the calvo fight, the style of naz was totally different, i have yet to understand why
     
  11. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Strange choice, wasn't Bungu a SBW?
     
  12. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice article. And for the record...like him or hate him, The Prince was DAMN GOOD for the sport. We could use another guy like him today!
     
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  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I never seen a fighter with better reflexes, if Naz had combined with actual, learned boxing skills then he would have been twice the fighter he was, which is really something, because he was pretty damm great anyway
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Absolutely, he brought so many new fans into the sport, quite incredible really, and they stayed interested after he retired was the point I made, compare that to Hatton, the fans he has brought into boxing, when he retires will they stay fans? I would say mostly, not.