Prince Naseem vs Alexis Arguello

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    12 rounds, who wins and why?
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Arguello TKO. Prince would have a punchers chance, but he's never fought a hitter the caliber of Arguello. It isn't ending well for the prince in this hypothetical IMO.
     
  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    The Prince’s unorthodoxy would ultimately be his undoing against such a technically proficient and correct fighter as Arguello.

    For Hamed to win, you have to figure that his combination of speed and power will need to be too much but Arguello was more likely to have trouble with movers or cuties, and Hamed wasn’t either.

    Maybe in the early stages, Hamed’s style gives him some problems but Arguello tended to use the early rounds to figure out his opponent anyway. If Hamed went gunhoe and tried to take Arguello out early, I think he’d get knocked out.
     
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  5. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Usually i always go with Naz in these fictional match ups but not this time.Arguello just to good
     
  6. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arguello. Too pure and too classy
     
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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Apart from being considerably better than Hamed, Arguello is a Southpaw-Killer.

    Hamed eats canvas for breakfast, lunch and dinner before taking a nap, courtesy of Arguello's straight right.
     
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  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Arguello slaughters Hamed. Aterrible style match up for the Prince.
     
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  10. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prince by easy TKO.

    His absurdly comical style would cause Arguello to laugh hysterically & be forced to concede the match by default.
     
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  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arguello did do good vs Southpaws overall but he also had some struggles vs Southpaws aswell.

    Ganigan dropped him and wobbled him numerous times, Ramirez dropped him and was very unlucky not to get the nod, Limon gave Arguello issues before being stopped on cuts late.

    Whilst I expect Arguello to win being the far superior technical boxer remember he wouldn't be fighting a cautious counter punching fight on the back foot like Barrera. Arguello is an offensive minded fighter and he would be getting hit by Hamed which is dangerous.

    People hate Hamed which is understandable considering his cocky personality but I'm not seeing a mismatch here like everyone else. I could see Hamed giving Arguello problems in the first 6 rounds and possibly dropping him Arguello could be a slow starter.
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do like that word "struggles" don't you? :)

    Only one of the bouts you reference constitutes a struggle, in my opinion, and that was against the heavy-hitting lightweight Ramirez, who had a magnificent career. Given the number of southpaws Arguello handled, I'm less inclined to believe he struggled with Ramirez because of his southpaw stance.

    In this case, Ramirez should simply be celebrated for his top-class technical ability. If you can find and recommend me a bout in which Hamed showed anything like that kind of ability, I'd be grateful.

    Ganigan had a 'moment' against a slow-to-start Arguello, who then woke up and proceeded to dismantle Ganigan inside five rounds. I don't think this constitutes struggling.

    Let's not forget that Hamed tasted the canvas himself - against lesser opposition.

    Likewise, Arguello was well-ahead against a game Limon, before the stoppage. Except for the clashing of heads, I can't see the struggle here.

    Also, I'm not sure what you mean by Barrera fighting off the back foot. He was controlling distance, using feints and timing to deliver his jab, initiate significant assaults or do the same on the counter. Barrera was an offensive-minded fighter too, who used a patient execution of skills to deliver his offense.

    Arguello was an intelligent pressure fighter, excellent counterpuncher and more than capable of not only replicating Barrera's performance but improving upon it - his counters would cut inside Hamed's offense with greater effect, for mine. Moreover, if this turned into a fire fight, I'd back Arguello to come out on top.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How can you not class the Ganigan fight as a struggle ? Arguello was dropped heavily and rocked numerous times in a back forth slugfest how does that not equate to a struggle ?

    I wouldn't exactly class Ramirez as a high quality technical operator you're talking about a guy that got outboxed and lost every round to Mancini who's not exactly a master boxer.

    Limon won alot more rounds don't take notice of the judges scorecards it was a very close fight up until the stoppage.

    Barrera was not aggressive vs Hamed he fought a tactical fight in the same manner he fought Junior Jones in their 2nd fight. Had he fought Hamed like he did Morales he would've been KO'ed that's why Barrera chose to fight disclipned tactical fight.

    Arguello was a come forward boxer/puncher yes he wasn't overly aggressive and was smart with his pressure but he wasn't exactly a defensive wizard either he got hit alot in fights. Getting hit alot by a one of the hardest hitting Featherweights of all time would be dangerous.

    Don't get me wrong I favour Arguello I think he's a class above Hamed and his resume is far superior overall. But I still think Hamed does present a danger to Arguello especially in the first 6 rounds as Arguello could be a slow starter.
     
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  14. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2 of those 3 fights were all the way up @LW though.

    In between, Arguello easily toyed w/ southpaw Rolando Navarrete w/o breaking a sweat.
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm aware of that as I said Arguello was good vs southpaws but his performances vs them was varied.