Pro Boxers HUMILIATED at Olympics 2016!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gannicus, Aug 9, 2016.


  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who are Amnat Ruenroeng and Carmine Tommasone?

    I follow boxing and I never heard of them.

    This reminds me of when a terribly washed up or simply not very good boxer turns to the MMA, and he loses, and people go, "SEE. I told you so."

    Danny Garcia wins a gold. Keith Thurman wins a gold. Anthony Joshua wins a gold. Gennady Golovkin wins a gold. Sergei Kovalev wins a gold. Andre Ward wins a gold.

    Put the best pros in with the best amateurs, the best pros win.

    Put a bunch of guys who aren't really very good in with the best amateurs "at anything" in the world ... the best amateurs win.

    It's not brain surgery.
     
  2. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah but a lot of these amateur kids would get flattened by journeymen in the pros
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ruenrong is one of the top 5 Flyweights in the world today. He beat Ioka a very highly ranked fighter, also beat Casimero another highly ranked fighter.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Put a bunch of guys who aren't really very good in with the best amateurs "at anything" in the world ... the best amateurs win.
     
  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Olympic style boxing is a completely different format to the Pro's all around, the weigh ins, the distance and other little things.

    If these Amateurs are so good and the Pros so poor then why not throw these amateurs in at a far higher level when they turn over?

    They don't because the amateurs need time to adapt and it works both ways, these pro's are throwing themselves in to a version of the sport that is completely different to what their minds and bodies are used to.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    We're talking about world class professionals here. I've never heard Ruenrong described as "aren't really very good". He's one of the best in the world.

    I get that you don't follow boxing in the lower weight classes, not everyone does, but you come across as quite ignorant when you make sweeping statements like that.

    Atleast try to understand that upon which you comment.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is exactly what needs to happen.
     
  8. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    talking about pro's at the Olympics?. come on. its a different ball game and we all know it.
     
  9. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    most of the top 'pro's' now were in the olympics and look how different/better these fighters are now
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    These guys that are losing aren't elite by any means. When elite are even good pros start getting their asses handed to them I'll be impressed.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He's on his last legs and way past his prime. That's probably why he went to the Olympics in the first place. Thought it would be easy work. When a guy like Crawford goes to the Olympics and gets worked then we'll have something to talk about.
     
  12. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You don't follow boxing much man. Ruenroeng was an ELITE pro - he couldn't get past the second round of the Olympics, and his style was good for amateurs AND in amateurs they have padded gloves and only 3 rounds where knockouts are laughably difficult. You also conveniently left out N'Dam who beat a lot of world class pros and became a contender for two belts in close fights that doesn't look it because N'Dam is one of those guys who gets knocked down a lot (but never out, like Salido). He couldn't get past the first round of the Olympics.

    It's not rocket science. You have to do things differently to win three rounds - everything is lightening fast paced, this changes the strategy and punch selection (it's essentially a high speed chess, far more so than pros in this regard).
    A professional fighter who has been trained to sit on his punches more and enact a gameplan over 12 rounds, in an amateur construct, would be outpointed because his amateur opponent is stealing rounds.

    People were worried that professionals would kill amateurs. They don't realise that young amateurs go up against 29 year old amateurs who have been in the game for many years and specialised for all of those years.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Key word here WAS. That right there explains everything. Don't act as if the guy is 27 and prime he's not he's past his best. He went to the Olympics to try and capture what he thought would be an easy Gold medal for his country, he was wrong. N'Dam is average at best he's no world beater. Not only that he fought in the Olympics at a higher weight that he does in the pros, not that it would have mattered anyway because he's not that good in the first place. Like I said earlier when elite prime pros or even good ones start losing then we'll have something to talk about.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Charles Martin was recently the IBF heavyweight champion. That doesn't make him an "elite" pro or one of the best in the world. I doubt he could beat up everyone at the local Walmart.

    People know who the best boxers in the world are. The pros losing in the Olympics aren't them.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. No one would confuse N'Dam as an elite middleweight. He was floored 10 times and lost handily to guys who aren't the best middleweights (Lemieux and Quillin). These pros thought they could drop into the Olympics and revitalize their careers with a medals. But they aren't really very good pros and they aren't very good in the amateur tourney format either.