Pro coaches that don't pad there own fighters

Plenty!

 

By padding, I am assuming you mean holding mitts for a fighter, not wrapping a fighter's hands right? I know that Cus D'Aamato never held mitts for Mike Tyson because of his old age. However from all the training footage I've seen, Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney rarely held mitts for Mike either, although they did loads of slip work using gloves.

 

Freddie Roach talked about getting hit accidentally while holding the mitts for Tyson on one of his training DVDs.

 

Push the name. I don't think it's the nessecity that people think it is- you get far more out of sparring, bagwork and shadow boxing.

 

I agree that sparring is far more beneficial and bag work, and shadow boxing have there place and are both beneficial as well, but if you have a good pad holder then it could be a lot like a sparring session with them throwing punches back at you and you having to slip or block and counter.

 

It's good for making combos second nature and to develop blocking techniques. Not essential though.

 

i use mitts for
1. skill introduction
2. accuracy
3. timing
4. reactive drills
4. adding progressive variables one element at a time in a controlled environment

it can be a useful tool for fine tuning a skill on it's way into sparring. lots of coaches and boxers use mitts for an ego stroke because it looks fancy, but if what's done on mitts is not been seen in sparring then its a waste. there's a progression. if i don't see a skill at one level then chances are i'm not going to see it at the next challenge up a level.
shadow box > bag > drill > mitts > situation/condition spar > open/full spar > outside spar (with another gym) > competition > tournament (obviously this is an amateur scenario. even though your question was for pros you probably see my point since pros still learn new stuff too)

there's a lot of steps between mitts and true high level competition.

many pro camps have a guy who is only doing mitts (some guys make a whole profession just holding mitts, get their foot in the door as a coach and gain behind the scenes experience).

and a good head coach is someone who knows how to delegate well, not someone who has to do it all himself.

 

I use the pads to coach obviously but there are times when I need more then a 2d view of a boxer. Especially as I coach mainly novices.

You can still coach someone on a bag, and you can still coach someone shadow boxing. I think your confusing going on the pads with one to one input and that can occur when your doing most things if your coach is attentive enough.

Any moron can hold a set of pads- its what your being told while there being held that's important. But the instructions you give on the pads can be given in other scenarios.

I have two lads who train with each other every session. They've NEVER hit the pads . They just hit each other... I did it as an experiment. And they are mustard for novices and can spar with anyone.

 

I'm intrigued by this experiment of yours. What do you mean when you say "they are mustard for novices"?

 

I just had two lads come to me as totally unboxed- just trained them by using conditioned sparring and shadow boxing - and they are pretty superb. One will definately fight when I get my amateur gym going.

They both have lots of room to improve but they are doing things when they spar that you wouldn't expect novices to do- timing counters, feighning shots to create openings, mixing up different types of shots.... They hold their own with lads who have boxed amateur and like I said they are very green - train once or twice a week for an hour for the last 8 months.

They look pretty **** on the pads.

 

pad work is so over rated ,,,the coach is **** ,,the boxer is **** but they can work together with the pads and make each other look good with a routine,,,you need to be tort how to move,,,how & when to through the punch,,,block & parry is the best brain training you can do before sparring