Pro featherweight boxer vs untrained 250lbs 6'4 meathead, who wins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jersey Joe, Jun 28, 2010.


  1. The Ring

    The Ring Anti-Nuthugger Full Member

    248
    0
    Jan 4, 2005
    MOST people don't even jab in fights.

    I'm no trained fighter but I've always felt that what I do know about boxing would be a big advantage to me in the real world against the average drunken bar fool. Might be wishful thinking, but I've enough shadow boxing in the tank to know how to throw my best 1-2 combo at will....:D

    Most fights start with people swinging WILD haymakers. A trained guy is going to eat that sht apart.
     
  2. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,688
    6
    Dec 26, 2009
    what kind of pro are we talking here? Are we talking world champion or Eric Crumble? If it is the world champion the meathead is out in less than a minute, if it is someone who is an meh pro, then this definitely changes things.

    And for the Mayweather vs Ronnie thing, Mayweather starches Ronnie in less than 10 seconds.
     
  3. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,242
    3
    Jan 25, 2010
    Every case is different nobdoy can say for a fact that just because the little guy is a boxer that he'll win.. size has a lot to do with it no matter what people wanna say here.. juanma lopez is a great boxer with punching power and if he takes on a big guy on a street fight he'll have a hard time

    :hat
     
  4. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,253
    2,301
    Jan 4, 2005
    In a boxing match, the pro FW 9/10. In a streetfight, 70/30 in the boxers favour.

    The pro boxer will have speed and enough power, barefist to KTFO 90% of meatheads in a flash. Of course the big guy can get a hold of the boxer first, then game over but if the boxer can get off first its pretty much over.

    Anyone who disputes this, walk intoa pro boxing gym, spar with a FW pro, tell him to go hard and tell me if you last a round with 16oz gloves. People underestimate just how hard a small guy can hit.

    Of course there are those who are naturally tough, can take a beating with or without training...their exceptions. Most guys though would fall with minimal pressure applied on the chin.
     
  5. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,098
    0
    Dec 7, 2008
    Pernell Whitaker was on Pros vs. Joes sparring with guys who were heavyweight size and in shape. This is a dude who's in his 40's and was on coke for years. He wasn't even trying and he was not even touched and was able to put these guys on ***** street whenever he felt like it.

    Well-trained boxers are just so superior in technique to regular people that untrained guys would never have a chance.
     
  6. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

    993
    0
    May 30, 2010
    Mayweather kicked the Big Show's ass!!!
     
  7. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    http://www.spike.com/episode/26435/st/2954097

    here's a video if anyone wants to see that.
     
  8. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,688
    6
    Dec 26, 2009
    wait is this a street fight or a boxing match?

    Also didn't a shot old Arturo Gatti dominate on Pros vs Joes as well?
     
  9. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

    3,129
    1,476
    Mar 22, 2010
    It depends on the people, still. Generally I'd prefer to be the bigger and the quicker and the more knowledgeable and have the better punch. If I have to pick, it's technique every time.
     
  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,826
    95
    Aug 5, 2004
    I actually saw this played out at a gym in N.Y. in the early '70s. it was frequented by alotta wiseguys who watched sparring.

    A three-time 122-pound Golden Gloves Champion and top-five pro contender was sparring, 'n a mountain-of-a-bookmaker (easily six-three, pushin' 300 pounds) -- grandstanding for his goombahs -- kept shoutin' cracks (I'd squash ya like bug -- blah blah blah)

    The fighter, who was about five-six 'n could really crack, wasn't ruffled but his manager 'n trainer were gettin' more 'n more steamed. Finally, the red-faced manager told him to put a sock in it.

    The wiseguy just got louder and 'n said what he'd do to the kid if he was in the ring. The manager jumped on it: "Why don't you put your money where you mouth is! The book shot back: "How 'bout for ten large?

    "Make it 20," the manager said.

    "DONE!"

    It was arranged after the gym was closed. Three rounds with ten-ounce gloves, no headgear. The owner of the gym held the stake.

    The wiseguy showed-up smokin' a cigar, stuffed like sausage into a stadium-sized track suit.

    The Jr. feather, in trunks, was cool as ice in his corner.

    The bell rang and the book thundered across the ring windmilling haymakers. The fighter slipped a right and dug a left hook -- WHUMP! -- into the book's gut. It sounded like Marciano hit the heavy bag.

    The book did a belly flop into the canvas, and lay motionless. We thought he was dead. Half the guys there were on parole, so they ran like hell.
     
  11. altez

    altez New Member Full Member

    66
    0
    Jun 7, 2006
    Depends on their skill level. A world class fighter can take on most guys on the streets. If it is someone who has just started training, than they probably will be in trouble, especially if the 250lb guy lifts weights.
     
  12. sKills

    sKills Member Full Member

    380
    0
    Jun 23, 2010
    i've seen a tiny skinny mexican kid KO a buff mexican guy in a mall parking lot with some kind of wide arm punch
     
  13. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

    11,392
    14
    May 24, 2006
    I think a lot of people have little man syndrome make these threads.

    I always wonder what they mean by "your average 200 lbs joe" and pit him up against a world class boxer to make some kind of point. 200 lbs isnt really that big especially by fat american standards. You seen Gatti look like pernell whitaker in there and of course he was supposed to.


    On the other hand it does depend what you mean by pro fighter, I mean technically zellenoff is a licensed pro fighter.
     
  14. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,001
    4
    Apr 7, 2010
    If they can really bang for a little guy, like Gatti could, its no problem. The whole untrained thing has a lot of dimensions these days. Some big fat goon with some MMA training would be likely to keep his cool and grab up said featherweight and cause all sorts of problems for the smaller man.
     
  15. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

    2,653
    4
    May 1, 2009

    These kind of threads are always a laugh.

    99.5% of the time the little featherweight (that is essentially the size of a woman) gets his arms ripped off like a child tearing a butterfly apart.

    It is one thing to be a boxing fan, it is another to imagine that a man the size of a little boy (albeit a boxer) is gonna trouble and dominate a substantively large man in an altercation. Even if the 6'4" 250 lb guy is blind he still swats the 5'6" featherweight into next week. I suppose if you take it to an extreme and find some perfect example of some out of shape gimp that posts on the internet all day, eating cookies and donuts, with diabetes, cardiovascular disease, various other health conditions, disabled, old man, etc., then anything is possible. Even so, 126 lbs of punching power is still basically that. Is the untrained large guy drunk or asleep when the fight begins? :lol:

    I know athletes that won't even watch anything below heavyweight as they jokingly compare it to watching woman fight. These are the kind of fantasies that little guys post. If you are boxer you aren't throwing and landing fully committed punches without tape and gloves. Remove the tape and with no glove as a cushion you are no more prepared to land your bare hand to head and bone then anyone else - because you are not training that way. Since the opponent here is 100% heavier and nearly a foot taller than you, that boxer is gonna feel the need to hurt this MUCH larger likely angry person quickly to get some respect. The "boxer's break" is real easy to get punching a hard unforgiving uneven surface without a glove. Also, landing clean and hurting another 126 lb man is one thing. That same punch on a 250 lb man isn't gonna have anything close to the same result. It is gonna take multiple punches (call it about a dozen for some of these little dudes) to equal two or three from a large sized person. Anyone who has been in a fight with someone larger than themselves should know this - or that size can matter greatly.


    Bare fist to bone isn't going to allow any small guy to blast out any large guy easily. The hand would never hold up to throwing it that hard (and landing it) repeatedly - and no big guy is going down from one hard punch from someone the size of a woman. Someone mentioned FMJ, I've seen him in the gym for over a decade now, even he isn't gonna drop ANY 300 lb man with a single un-gloved punch (or gloved either for that matter) and finish anyone in 10 seconds flat. That is absolute absurd hype, ridiculous, and impossible.


    Getting ahead of the curve here - for similarly minded future threads (likely from dudes with an unforgiving and unfortunate runaway case of little man syndrome), the 5'6" 126 lb pro boxer/male athlete is almost never going to get the runway model, starlet, or other high end babe either. Money talks but there are only a handful of dudes this small pulling material dollars. Without the cash, there is simply no reason for quality women to want to end up with a man the same size as she is.

    Reality check.