Problems I had with Frazier vs Foreman I

I thought Foreman landed a couple of really hard jabs.

I agree that Foreman's pushing was a major key to the way he won the fight. Without it he would have been pressed to shorten his punches dramatically, against an awkward crowding target. But he was so solid, strong and powerful, even with lessened effectiveness he would have taken a toll on Frazier within a few rounds.

 

Frazier did not have a lot of brute strength to him nor was he athletic in the classical sense. Foreman took advantage of that. Frazier never really had a jab that mattered, nor did he have the one punch power to shank Foreman up.

It was a mismatch, and bad style match up for Frazier.

 

That was a strategy by the Foreman camp. To push and shove or even to jab the inside part of Joe's shoulder. It would twist his torso because George was so strong in there. They knew they could send Joe off balance and then he'd have to re-set himself and his footwork & then try coming in again.

Part B of the strategy was once they did it a few times, to launch uppercuts. From both hands, and not just the right hand. And Joe would get hit walking into them.

 

Hard to argue with George's plan or performance. **** Saddler told George "take charge early George". And he did. The ref should have stopped it much earlier.

 

You seem to be in love with frazier. Only way you can discredit george. It is just the way he fought. He was a thug.

Frazier never ever beats foreman. No matter how hard frazier fan boys want to come up with every other fantasy scenario in the book to make it happen.

 

and he did, constantly.

Foreman vs Frazier is one of the best examples of gameplanning.

 

Sure you do. I have no problem with that. But I can't help to think how ridiculous it is. To each their own!

 

that would never happen. so no

 

The best ref in the game perhaps of all time was in that ring that night. He warned Foreman several times for pushing. However after the first minute and a half or so pushing was a mute point. It became a one sided massacre very quickly. No Frazier at any time would do well vs Foreman.....he had two cracks both ended with disasterous consequences. You can see a spray of Fraziers teeth in the air after the final Foreman punch in fight two. The key blows were the very awesome Foreman jab that actually staggered Frazier early on followed by a perfect right uppercut. Prime Foremans uppercut was the most devastating single punch in hwt history. Fighting in a crouch in attack mode it was and would be a matter of time before that blow would land. George would need one punch to hurt Joe enough to eventually end the fight.

 

Don't you think the ref should have stopped the fight sooner?