Professor Dwyer makes some good points on Klitscho v.s Joshua here!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Todd498, Apr 24, 2017.


Is Joshua being hyped too much??

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  2. No

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Whyte landed a very clean, unsighted counter left hook on Joshua as he was exposed coming in...It wobbled and hurt Joshua badly yes but it's not the kind of shot Wladamir will land in a million years.

    That lead left hook or right hand is where Wlad will do his damage. Wlad is of the age now though where a single right hand will rarely do the job unless it's late in the fight. He might stun him with the right hand then set him up for a finishing shot...maybe a suplex or clinch of death. Will be funny if he trys to push over a hurt Joshua...fairly sure a british ref will call no knockdown and give AJ time to recover.
     
  2. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    Because i have seen his fights , AJ fights the best from mid-range but he is a decent inside fighter as well , definitely a better inside fighter than Wlad.
     
  3. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua can negate Wlads jab with his own, which at this stage is probably harder, faster and more accurate. But Wlad doesn't actually like to jab that much unless he can follow it up with a nice grab. That tactic he's employed for so many years against smaller, weaker opposition was rendered useless against Fury, and it's gonna be the same story against Joshua.

    Wlad isn't a counter puncher, Joshua can throw the right hand without any regard for what's coming back, this will be all about who gets their shots off first and AJ will 100% be the aggressor in this fight. People look too much at Wlad-Fury in an attempt to analyse this fight, look at the success Janitor Jennings had in New York with a neutral ref not putting up with Wlads antics, Joshua is levels above Jennings skillwise with huge physical advantages, this fight has one outcome and that is Joshua inside the distance, most likely 1-6.

    I wonder what people will say when Joshua deals with Wlad easier than he did with Dillian Whyte.
     
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  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Problem with your theory is in mid-range AJ will get countered by Wlad and inside AJ won't land anything because Wlad will simply tie him up.

    If AJ wants to win this then he has to land bombs from the outside. While Wlad parrys him and peppers him with jabs. Not impossible, just very hard.

    Your theory of AJ winning this on the inside is faulty.
     
  5. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    What will Wladimir do against the combination punching from AJ , it won't be that easy to keep him at the
    distance , now you can tell me , you seem to be convinced that Wlad will win.

    And i guarantee you , he will not counter AJ's punches , Wladimir is not a counterpuncher.

    You criticized me for saying Wladimir is scared to pull the trigger , but it is what it is , mentality plays
    a role in boxing as well as physical advantages , better you start to believe it.
     
  6. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    No it is not , you don't seem to watch a lot of fights from both .
    Wladimir is not a counterpuncher and if he gets hit by AJ , he will not throw back , he will try to get in the clinch
    as he usually does.
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a counterpuncher lol You're new around here, I'll leave you to it.
     
  8. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    If you really think that Wlad is a counterpuncher , i recommend you to actually see a fight from him.
     
  9. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua will not use the same strategy as Fury. I think Joshua believes in his power and ability, he will try to land something big early, if it lands then the fights over. Furys jab to the body and then dance around for a minute in his fight with the Wlad, isnt really Joshua thing.

    Wlads experience will only be a bonus in later rounds if the fights close. Joshua might crumple mentally if he can't finish Wlad.
     
  10. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    We all have opinions, but who predicted the way the Wlad vs Tyson fight would unfold, folk had their views on who would win but few predicted Wlad getting gun shy.

    This fight is old warrior who came up very short last time out vs untested young gun.

    We know that Wlad will not be able to use his oft used default setting of his height, weight, strength advantage, his clinch might work a few times but as he is so well known for it, AJ will have been training to counter it or avoid.

    Likewise Wlad will have met other big strong young guns and will have strategies to deal with them.

    I continue to feel that AJ will prevail, but until fight night none of us know who will leave with the belts.
     
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  11. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    Perfect statement , nothing to add , this is exactly what i was saying the whole time.
     
  12. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think Wlad will hit your boy even harder than this...

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  13. Bogotazo

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    I'm not exactly convinced Wlad will win, I just think Joshua is a huge question mark. I've never seen him deal with a jab like Wlad's or someone who can time left hooks and straights off the jab with such timing. That's Wlad's greatest strength, along with his control of distance.

    It's just not a guarantee Wlad is going to be frozen. He seems very hungry after the Fury loss and I think it's just as likely Joshua finds himself out of his depth jumping up in quality so much. Wlad could definitely get old and fail to pull the trigger, but Joshua needs more than to depend on that.

    This is a concern for Joshua IMO, trying to parry the jab and not using head movement makes it easier for Wlad to manipulate his defense. Jab, jab, then hook around, then jab, then feint the jab and throw a right. That's Wlad's game. A static upper body is dangerous against him.

    He does have a complete punch arsenal. But so did Haye.
     
  14. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    It's a pretty big leap of faith to presume Joshua's jab is better than Wlad's. What you say about the grab is true, but Joshua won't negate it anything like Fury did because his footwork won't resemble Fury's at all.

    Wlad is not a textbook counter-puncher but he catches fighters coming in all the time. If Joshua is aggressive enough he can overwhelm Klitschko but I see Wlad's jab making Joshua tentative early on.

    Definitely going to re-watch the Jennings fight.

    Depends how he looks, but probably that Wlad was too old.
     
  15. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    wtf

    ha
     
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