Prograis vs Indongo was rigged

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  1. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In 11 fights he’s beaten quite a few elite level guys. Russell, Rigo and Walters. Outside of that he’s beaten all world class fighters. Crawford has beaten a lot of very good boxers too but his status is based more on quantity and performance vs Loma who has his status which is rooted in Quality and performance. It makes sense because Loma hasn’t been a pro for as long and he shot right out of the gate facing opponents with winning records and world titles
     
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  2. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Indongo legs were shot
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Indongo doesn't have a chin. He has no chin, none. His opposition pre Troyanovsky, Crawhype, and Rougarou consists of the biggest bunch of featherfists you can imagine. I'm talking guys who couldn't punch holes in soapsuds if they threw with every ounce of their might. Since Indongo has started facing opposition that can actually crack an egg he's 1-2 (the 2 loses coming via him being blasted out early with ease) and the only reason he's not 0-3 is because the other puncher he fought didn't land a punch on him.
     
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  4. JohnnyDrama99

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    This. He was hurt early on and never regained his footing. Yet he still tried to go for the KO. He lived by the sword and died by it
     
  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    I would lie if I say that I didnt think for a moment that it was rigged. That's how poor indongo performed. But finally I decided that indongo is not as good as I suposed him to be, and that's all.

    Mathisse vs postol is a rigged fight. But this one? nah, I dont think so. Indongo just performing like sheet.
     
  6. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    People keep going on and on about 11 fights, ****, HE'S 30 YEARS OLD! and has been a pro for 4 1/2 years.

    Russell: Good win, but he fought nobody before that one.

    Rigo: Dragged an old man (I know I know, he's really 32 and Ortiz is really 50) who hadn't had a real fight in 3 years up two weight classes

    Walters: Obvious and pathetic dive dude's still drinking a Mai-Tai on the beach in Jamaica right now with that money he bet on Chenko.

    Crawford has not fought great competition, but Lundy, Gamboa, Diaz, Jean, Beltran, Dulorme and Postol are a FAR better resume.

    In addition; Chenko lost a fight, and never said ONE WORD about getting revenge. This is the only P4P fighter I can remember doing this in MY LIFE WATCHING BOXING!

    Also; he kept calling out a nobody who went from siliver gloves tournaments as an amateur, to winning apaper title as a pro, losing it on the scales, and getting arrested, and he STILL hasn't beaten anyone. WHY DIDN'T HE CALL OUT BERCHELT!!

    I don't dislike Chenko, he's a good talent but these questions must be answered.
     
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  7. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There have been boxers who have long amateur careers and started their pro careers 25 years of age or older who did not take the route Loma has taken fighting opposition with winning records, ranked p4p or current or former world champions.

    There’s a significant difference from being an amateur and a professional. That’s the reason almost all boxers making the transition to the pro ranks begin their careers fighting 4, 6 and 8 round bouts against low level opponents, most of who have losing records. They scale and progressively face more difficult opponents while acclimating to the professional ranks.

    Loma began fighting 10 to 12 round fights against opponents who had winning records and were champions. Russell fought Loma who was in his 2nd pro fight....Russell was 24-0. Now Gary is the best featherweight in the world and there’s no one close to being considered his equal. Loma beating Russell was a great win considering he was 1-1 challenging Russell who was considered the #1 contender at the time at 126 with a record of 24-0.

    Walters took a dive? Lol. Sure kid. Walters was simply outclassed against Loma and his ego was damaged to the point he quit. The same happened to Rigo when he faced Loma.

    Walters resume is very good but Loma’s has more depth in fewer fights. Loma has beaten 5 world champions (current or former)...3 undefeated world champions and 2 p4p ranked undefeated world champions in half the fights.

    Bud hasn’t faced one p4p ranked boxer in 32 fights. He’s faced 4 undefeated fighters, 3 world champions and has unified at 140. He’s been pro twice as long as Loma.

    Loma did try to get a rematch with Salido. They offered him $720k for the rematch but Salido rejected the fight.

    http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/07/orlando-salido-rejected-720k-offer-lomachenko-fight/amp/

    https://www.badlefthook.com/platfor...um-salido-chickened-out-of-lomachenko-rematch

    Loma was planning to fight Berchelt before securing the Rigo fight. It was between Rigo and Berchelt but the fans wanted the Rigo fight. Berchelt called out Loma but decided to go another route altogether and fight Mijares. Then that fight fell through and he didn’t even mention Loma’s name. He went after Malaga, then they fight fell through and again, didn’t call out Loma to step in and instead signed Awuku.

    No one wanted Loma to fight anyone his size at 130 or 126. Vasyl won’t get credit unless he’s fighting guys like Linares or Garcia who are one or two divisions north.....and even then, should he dominate like he has critics will say he needs to move up to 147 and face guys like Crawford and Spence.
     
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  8. Forza

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    i've been saying for years crawford is all hype lomachenko is way better even with the ugly loss on his record
     
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  9. Rock0052

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    Bud's resume isn't better, and I like Bud.

    The rest seems like gibberish you posted to rationalize not liking Loma. Dudes been pro for half as long as Bud and they have the same number of title fights. One loss difference. Big whoop. Bud hasn't fought fought anyone that was the threat Russell was, and that was Loma's third pro fight.
     
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  10. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    ROFL, so true.
     
  11. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Crawford has not beaten anyone, but bums and a glass jawed midget Gamboa who was giving him the business in the first 5 rounds. Crawford's resume is hot garbage. But hey, he is targeting Jeff Horn!
     
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  12. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Chenko fought 5 rounds fights with no headgear against excellent opposition.



    As I said, good win. But Russel has fought nobobdy before or since but a washed up Johnny Gonzalez.

    what happenned to Santa Cruz, Frampton, Quigg, Diaz and Valdez?




    He hadn't fought for a year before that. He hasn't fought for 2 years after that, where's the money coming from? Boxers don't have guaranteed contracts Bro.



    No, he was just an undersized, inactive old man.


    He had two good wins, over a flyweight and a bantamweight.


    How many years later?

    If there was any controversy in a fight they WON fighters like Mayweather and De La Hoya and Ward, and even Stevenson, demanded a rematch. If Salido was making $720,000 and Lomachenko over a million, what is that? Arum should have said, we'll give you 50% of the money. Salido got the victory and he is the Mexican bringing the fans. It really is that simple.



    What "Planning?" He's the world champion, the Mexican and the guy with 4 our five title defenses. Why call out a novice who can't even make weight. WHERE WAS THE CALLOUT OF BERCHELT?
    Berchelt is not the guy being billed as the greatest since Ali, Chenko is. Bob Arum has done business with his promoter before. He just didn't want the fight. Period.


    Berchelt said he would take the fight. He is 130 lbs. who else is in the division? Nobody! Unknown guys from Japan and Panama.

    Mayweather moved up to fight junior middlewieghts, Foreman fought 5 men in one night. Ali took 3 1/2 years off and came back against Jerry Quarry the #1 contender. Sugar Ray Robinson gave up 16 pounds to Jake Lamotta in their second fight, lost a decision, and then got a rubber match 21 days later!!! and won.

    That's right, 21 days. (this time though he was only 15 lbs. lighter.

    When you're great people expect great accomplishments. If Chenko was your normal titleholder. Yeah good career so far.
    I didn't make the rules, buddy.

     
  13. Forza

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    you can nitpick anyone's resume like that. I could make floyds resume look like a joke if I wanted to waste that much time. Because remember floyd has all the names on his resume but he fought them at bad times in their career. Fact is, lomachenko is p4p #1 right now. He is just destroying everyone. When he beats linares, which he is about to do, it will be even more apparent.
     
  14. jmashyaka

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    I will be interested to see Taylor vs Prograis or Mikey vs Prograis because then I can see how he does when he faces someone with wheels
     
  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Loma knew Salido's price for a rematch was $1 million all along, but kept trying to lowball him. If Loma and Arum really wanted the rematch it would've got made. Also, ever since the loss to Salido Loma has only fought inactive or small fighters.

    Berchelt or Machado would both be good opponents. Anybody else at 130 would continue Loma's run of fighting weak competition.
     
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