Promoter shares a young Vitali story.

How many ring magazine top ten defenders did Wilder defend his title against? That would be zero.
Vitali fought several men in the top ten with his title on the line.

Historically speaking, the WBC belt used to mean something. These days, it matters far less because the man who owns it fights non top ten people.

What matters more if Ring Magazine Champion ( Which Vitali was ) and being #1 or #2 by Ring Magazine, or fight news, which Wilder never was, but Vitali was for years. VK is also in the hall of fame, a pinnacle Wilder will never achieve.

I'm all right with an athlete bragging, but he has to back it up. Wilder says he'd KO Tyson and easily pass 50-0.
Let's see him beat one top ten ring magazine; then he'll start the road to respect. Ortiz will be a few weeks shy of 39, but if he's in shape and Wilder wins cleanly, okay that's a start.

 

wilder and vitali are cut from the same cloth so far, dont pretend its otherwsise.

 

becos vitalis best win was a retired 38 year old who never was good enough for a title shot when prime.

 

The real story would include Vitali taking roids

 

He beat a Ring #2 rated HW same as Vitali. #2Stiverne / #2Peter.. Id take Stiverne in that fight.

The top 10 now is a lot better than the horrendous top 10 during Vitali's title run.

In Vitali's WBC era a bum like Arroela is ranked top 10 for FIVE frickin years in a row. We all saw what Wilder did to Arroela with just one arm.

LHW Tommy Adamek , whose health would be at risk if he was at heavy today , was top 10 for 4 years and at one point was the #3 rated HW in the world.

Vitali's WBC run against top 10'ers were Solis , Adamek, Johnson and Gomez.. All total bums who would come apart brutally against both Wilder and Joshua.

 

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LOL, no Dino, Stiverne was not #2 ring rated by Ring Magazine. Try a bit further back! Where do you get your information? I have the annual ratings.

Lets compare Ring Magazine annual ratings. 2009 vs. 2017. You tell me who had more talent.

2009
[url]Wladimir Klitschko[/url], Champion - Hall of fame fighter for sure

1. [url]Vitali Klitschko[/url] - First ballot hall of fame fighter
2. [url]Alexander Povetkin[/url] - Very good in his prime
3. [url]Eddie Chambers[/url] - Maybe a little over rated but better than some of the 2017 guys
4. [url]Ruslan Chagaev[/url] - A solid alphabet champion, fought better than Wilder did
5. [url]David Haye[/url] - UK people love him, but worthy for this spot.
6. [url]Chris Arreola[/url] - Perhaps a little over rated
7. [url]Denis Boytsov[/url] - An illness took him out of boxing. Sad case
8. [url]Nikolay Valuev[/url] - About right
9. [url]Alexander Dimitrenko[/url] - Over rated, bad pick
10. [url]Tony Thompson[/url] - About right

2017 Heavyweights
[url]Tyson Fury[/url], Champion - Not even in boxing!

[url]Anthony Joshua[/url] - A Worthy pick

1. [url]Deontay Wilder[/url] - He beat who to get ranked this high?
2. [url]Joseph Parker[/url] - A solid pick for the top ten, but #3?
3. [url]Alexander Povetkin[/url] - Very old
4. [url]Luis Ortiz[/url] - Very old
5. [url]Kubrat Pulev[/url] - Still around? Old.
6. [url]Andy Ruiz Jr.[/url] - Not worthy in hindsight
7. [url]Dillian Whyte[/url] - Not worthy, only rated for rocking Joshua in a loss.
8. [url]Dominic Breazeale[/url] - Really?
9. [url]Jarrell Miller[/url] - Might stick in the top ten, could eat himself out of it too.

2009 > 2017.

 

a 41 year old Klitschko nearly had the beating of the best 2017 HW..... Rewind 8 years when both Klitschkos were still around, Haye prime - Povetkin, Chagaev was still good, Chambers still good, Peter was still solid, Thompson, Valuev. Clearly better..... Anyone who says otherwise is a Klitschko hater.

Now 2019-2021 when all of the awesome amateur talent pans out? Could very well better overall than most of the years during the Klitschko era. But most of those guys are still developing as pros and a few years off at least from reaching world title level.

 

When are you going to learn that i post facts , not opinions?

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You've been proven wrong. Again.

 

WBC ratings don't mean ****. Hell Charles Martin is in their top ten.

 

O yeah...that guy that Lewis and Tyson paid off to allow them to duck.
That same guy who when finally got his shot, KTFO a top 5 ATG and top 20/30 p4p ATG.

I keep forgetting how much better Evan Fields and Michael Moorer challenger Bean was.

 

Yeah Stiverne was rated #2... So what? The WBC probably owed Don King a favor! Clearly not a very good fighter. Lost to journeyman King(questionable stoppage maybe but he was certainly badly hurt) was being outboxed and behind the cards against the corpse of Ray Austin(the prime version was utterly destroyed by Klitschko in less than 2 rounds) High marks of his career are beating a washed up Arreola and he was getting outboxed in the second fight before getting him out of there. Then shut out against Wilder, dropped by featherfisted high level journeyman/fringe contender Rossy and then KO'd in 1 by Wilder.

Clearly a mediocre fighter at best. Yet Dinovelvet thinks that Vitali retired to avoid defending against him, as opposed to wanting to pursue a career in politics.

 

Whose talking WBC ratings , can't you read? I refer to Ring ratings only.