Promoters and PPV

I m on the same page jurgen as will a lot will be because most of this forum are the hardcore...but you,ve got to bear in mind...only the hardcore would be interested in dilmaghani v ziana. From sky sports point of view....as a channel trying to market itself as showing the pinnacle of uk sport why would they put it on.

The viewers numbers would be shockingly low. Their playing a balancing act...they could do better. But again the reality is they,d need to invest too much to grow it before it was worthwhile for them...when most other sport doesnt need the same level of investment for big viewing numbers. So they kind of left it to eddie. Their trying now...but lets see how much success they get with boxer or whatever the promotional company is. My guess is not too much...they just cant give a massive budget to a sport thats watched by not enough viewers unless they really invested. They dont need to take that gamble to please 30 guys on a boxing forum.

They never starved people of boxing to get people to buy fights....if they did it was a small number because most people arent really big into boxing. The people buying the fights we,re mostly people that have bought into the very well marketed product that ppv,s allowed a massive budget for.

Most buyers we,re casuals....who arent really checking schedules for the next fight..just guys that have bought into the marketing of it. The people boxing really needs to please to grow. The hardcore will never get a sport they want....but they need the casuals to get it as close to a sport they want. Thats the truth.

 

It’s just the price of a cheeky Nando’s. Not sure what the problem is

 

The problem is the rising prices of that cheeky Nando's.

 

I've not read any of the but if you compare PPV to ufc which happens every month then the fight game will always just have to be PPV.( most ufc cards are shite but with a story) Pick the best fight of the month between the competition. Delboy has become a PPV fighter because he's been matched with Whyte who both bring huge social media views every time transforming into PPV. Pretty simple really. Not always the best Fighter makes the most money

 

You say this yet 200k people buy said PPV so clearly there’s a market

 

This 200k figure being a very small % age of the UK population 67.22m - 0.3% or 1 in 336 people - it is a very small market of PPV Mugths.

A tiny minority purchase PPV although there are 5-10 times more who still watch using other means such as pubs, neighbour's windows, Ferry Bars or Sporting/Angling Clubs.

No growth in the boxing fanbase at all using PPV and all that happens is a small number make huge sums and sail off with their loot.

DAZN UK not the answer either for £7.99 pay per view/card and that is without the extra £29.99 per card coming soon to watch Joshua, Pudding Whyte and Conman Benn.

Once existing subscribers get charged PPV, it is a race to the bottom.

 

Thirty quid to watch anything on your television is an absolute rip off.

 

He shouldn't have been on PPV all those times.
He's an old punch bag. A plodding heavyweight who took too many punches, you said it yourself more or less.

In a previous post, you claim the PPV money made him a better fighter. I doubt it.

 

Where did I say that there isn't a market? I repeatedly use the term "PPV mugs".

The mugs can't seem to fathom that they don't have to pay to watch such dross. They are simply digging their own grave.

 

And thats where the problem lies. Hes an old punchbag...took too many punches. You realise chisoras a human being probably with a family. But you want to send him in with the best heavyweights in the world over and over again. Get his brain scrambled....and give him something like 800,000 at the end of it all.

And yet jordan henderson...walks away with 55 million quid. A darts player gets 10 million.

That sounds fair.

Thats gonna really grow the sport. All sounds good this no more ppv...but put it into reality and boxing will just die a slow death. Thats the truth. Promoters lose interest. The next stars of the future lose interest. The casuals lose interest. I,d tell my son to stop being an idiot....put the gloves down...theirs a set of darts.

Pretty sure if chisora was just a plodder...these guys would have made light work of him. In reality he gave most of them a very hard nights work. Either the best heavyweights in the world are not very good or chisoras not a plodder. People are saying usyk would be too much for muhammad ali. Now, i watched that usyk v chisora fight and i m a massive fan of usyk....but lets be honest chisora made him look pretty ordinary that night. Not too bad for a plodder.

Pays to reason that ppv money made chisora a better fighter. Just the fact he was able to get david haye on board. Had jennings over for sparring. Was able to get better training. A lot of dels career was just him and don. Who pretty much fell out with each other half the time.

He had a better team. He was able to get better sparring across. Nutritionalist etc. Would del have been competetive with usyk when he fought fury. I dont think so. Otherwise if true no point really having the usyk v fury fight because fury done a much better job on del that usyk did.

 

No, I don't want to send him out against the best in the world over and over again.
You've describing exactly what has happened, with PPV etc.
He's been tempted to take on superior fighters over and over because of the PPV money and the glorification the promoters and broadcasters have put on his ability to soak up punches.
Ideally he should have quit years ago.

 

Exactly

What else would say Del or Whyte do? Go work a 9 to 5?

No of course not, they will keep boxing as its still better paid than any regular job they'd get

Its like when a footballer loses his place in a top team due to him not being the player he once was

Another team comes in for him all be it on a lower wage

So do you think the player says to himself "sod that I'll go work at WH Smith instead"?

 

Dillian Whyte and Derek Chisora's net worth's are 5-6 million and 6-7 million respectively.

30-50 million is way, way off the mark for both of them.

They would both likely be in prison if it was not for boxing (Dillian has said as much too), so yes, they would still fight even for a tenth of the purses they have been getting the past few years if that was all that was available to them.

Very few boxers earn 30-50 million over the course of their career's. AJ is truly remarkable in what he has earned but is very much the exception to the rule as far as British boxers are concerned.