Proof McCloskey quit?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TheDon, Apr 16, 2011.


  1. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Amir Khans stretghs - Speed, Punch Volum, Fitness

    McCloskeys game plans - Slip Shots and hope he gets tired.

    If you want a fighter to get tired you did to do allot more than what McCloskey did.
     
  2. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    There was still 6 rounds to go. He was never going to UD Khan, everybody knew that before the fight. His only chance was to try unsettle or tire Khan and try something in drastic in the last 3 to 4 rounds.

    Now considering most people here said McCloskey would be another Salita job, its fair to say he was not doing a bad job in there. He got hit with very little and nothing of any substance which is better then most expected. The big dissappointment is not being able to see how the fight would of panned out in the 2nd half. If you cant understand that, then there is no point continuing to discuss this with you.....
     
  3. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    I am not for one minute saying Khan didn't look **** but I don't think thats anything to do with McCloskey.

    His performace was Junior Witter meets Audley Harrison. His career has only gone backwards. He is 2 years away from another world title fight and he hasn't got a hope in hell of getting on US TV.

    I am majorly disapointed in McCloskey because I have been a big supporter of his since the Lynnes fight.

    Theres a way to beat Amir Khan. Tactics you can employ and McCloskey is capable to employing them but he chose not to and instead undertook a game plan which had a very slim chance of working.

    I admit I went overboard calling him a ***** but i still maintain it was a pathetic performance. If Lamont Peterson had come over and done the same thing he would be getting ripped to pieces right now.
     
  4. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    The people who said McCloskey was going to be a Salita job were ****ing ******s.

    I get why your dissapointed but personally don't feel the second half of the fight will have been much different. If McCloskey had started coming forward more and actually attempting to counter I think it would have only started to suit Khan who is fitter and stronger than McCloskey in the later rounds.
     
  5. leo_messi

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    Maybe not, but the point is we were unjustly not given the chance to see the second half of the fight because of a ridiculous decision. I would be livid if I had of paid for that.....

    Also, Khan is not neccessarily fitter than McCloskey in the later rounds. How have you come to that conclusion. I have never seen McCloskey gas in a fight, never, his conditioning is superb. Not saying he is neccessarily fitter than Khan but for you to conclude that Khan is most definitely fitter is again just ridiculous. Its an opinion based on nothing of any substance
     
  6. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    Rob,


    What did you think of Khans comments after the fight?

    How do you see Khan doing against Bradley?
     
  7. willmc83

    willmc83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Complete bull****.

    The big stage clearly didn't get to him, he was calm as **** and he wasn't paid that handsomely either.

    I'm guessing you've picked up a few comments over the years from overheard conversations about boxing and you think you can drop these into a discussion and expect that people won't notice your a fraud :hi:
     
  8. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no i understand the point you are making and to a certain degree I agree with you, I was just talking about Khan seperately.

    Its true McCloskey isnt in a great position, there isnt many fights out there for him
     
  9. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Khans comments were a bit of a joke but so were some of McClokseys. I wasn't suprised as it Khan and hes a bit thick.

    Have always felt Bradley would win the fight and saturday only reaffirmed that opinion. Have always felt a fact and accurate fighter than shows movement has a chance agaisnt Khan if there prepared to take his flurrys and counter (why i gave McCloskey a shot but he didn't do that).

    Khan is a sucker for a looping right hand which is Bradleys best shot. I also think Bradley can be a special fighter I really rate him. I hope he stays at Light Welterweight and doesn't go chasing the mega fights doubt it though.
     
  10. leo_messi

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    They both made stupid comments, but Khans comments annoyed me because they were more disrespectful. Considering the performance he himself had just produced you would think that he would of been more humble about himself and how the fight panned out.

    Yeah i'm lumping on Bradley, no ****ing way Khan wins that fight.
     
  11. willmc83

    willmc83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you can criticise khan for missing and making mistakes but why did he make those mistakes? I would have liked to have seen mccloskey countering more and I'm sure he probably wishes the same himself with the benefit of hindsight but the plan always was to look for the stoppage in the later rounds and he was disciplined enough to stick with the game plan and not get overly exicted by a probable opportunity
     
  12. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    McCloskey needs to get back to what he was doing. A quick win before the season is over in a 10 rounder will make the push the point his cut wasn't bad to. He will then be mandatory for the European title which will put him back in the WBC top 15.

    Lets say a 10 rounder in June of the Kell Brook undercard as the live fight on Sky. Then get Matchroom to do a card in Northern Ireland with Frampton where he is again the opening fight in September. In December he gets his European title back. As deluded as it may be theres allot of fans with the opinion McCloskey was robbed etc.

    So then he is back in 2012 with his European title. He can make 2-3 defences climb the WBC rankings and get an eliminator and become mandatory.

    No more Barry Morrisons. If McCloskey is serious about being a world champion and getting a rematch with Khan he cannot be ****ing around with guys ranked No.15 by the EBU coming off a loss for a lower tier title.

    Theres got to be 15+ Europeans ranked in the top 40 by the WBC. Just go through them until your mando.
     
  13. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Did you expect anything different. Prescott sparked him in 1 minute and Maidana nearly killed him and hes never said anything respectful about them.
     
  14. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    I don't think anyones not been critical of Khan even his own fans say he looked ****.

    I think that was a poor gameplan to go in with. you cannot hope a fighter to get tired when

    a) he is one of the fittest fighters in the world
    b) your not fighting at a fast pace
    c) your not slowing him down by hurting him with body punches
     
  15. willmc83

    willmc83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sorry, that attack was a bit personal, but mccloskey isn't mayweather, if you were expecting to see him do it like the p4p greatest you are going to be disappointed but he did it compartively well in my opinion.

    i'd love to have seen how the fight would have gone in the second half but unfortunatley we'll never know