Proof that Liston blinded Ali

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  1. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roberto Duran deserves a mention.
     
  2. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did Marciano showed any discomfort with his nose split in a half?

    Did Patterson ever showed discomfort woth broken back or Baer woth both hands broken?

    There are two reasons Machen didn't show any discomfort:
    1st- he didn't want Liston knwoing his dirty strategy worked

    2nd- old timers weren't douchebags with no heart unlike your hero who claimed shoulder injury but also never showed any discomfort too.
     
  3. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can you treat shoulders with some substance put from outaide unless you have bad cut?
    Again not true, shoulders can be treated with drugs ot therapy but why would he need to use that in the middle of the fight, and no substance from outside would help shoulder pain.

    Again myth about one of the 100000 excuses is busted again.
     
  4. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali said so, and someone even recognized the guy in the comments and revealed who that was.
     
  5. Spreadeagle

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    So why didn't Ali refer to this in his autobiography ?
     
  6. Spreadeagle

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    I suggest you contrast the obvious distress Ali showed with his eyes to the total lack
    of reaction by Machen.Eyes are probably the most sensitive part of the human-body so
    any problems with eyes will invariably provoke more reactions than injuries to other parts
    of the body.
    As somebody who claims to have been a medical-student at the age of 15 you should know this.
     
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  7. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would he?

    That's weakest argument to make his statements not valid.
     
  8. Spreadeagle

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    Oh I see,Muhammad Ali thought '' yeah well,it wasn't worth mentioning ''.
    Don't be so naive.
     
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  9. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier fought with his eyes swollen, very badly injured and still never showed any discomfort even tho it hurts a lot.

    It was a physical damage that was did by getting punched in the eyes so much, that hurts a lot more than having a some substance in the eyes.

    Machen was not pepper sprayed so he would scream and act like he'a losing his eyes.
     
  10. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would he mebtion that?
    Many things were not mentioned by some boxers but they happened, does that makes those things not true?
    That's the weakest argument I heard in my life.
     
  11. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Weak
    Weakest argument ? You should read your own posts.
     
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  12. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why I should?
    I could read yours where your argument is: he didn't mention that in autobiography, he lies, it didn't happened.
     
  13. Spreadeagle

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    Are you sure you studied medicine ?
     
  14. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    When it comes to weak arguments,totally lacking in any logic,you are out on your own.
     
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  15. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I do.
    Let me punch someone in the eyes and throw fingers in it and then compare him with a person who is pepper sprayed.