I believe Ortiz could have gotten up but quit instead. If you look at his past fights he got dropped with harder right hands by Berto and Maidana. Notice the way he gets up and the motions in which he pushes his gloves on the canvas to lift himself up. Its all the same motion, but when Mayweather dropped him he got up the same way then decided to roll onto his knees and quit instead. I believe he could have gotten up but chose to quit. I think all these stories about Ortiz being weak minded from his ex trainer and proof in the past that he is a quitter is all true. Once a quitter always a quitter. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJu1VMCZa9A[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LKO6MhoQhU[/ame]
Only truth is: 1: Floyd hits a lot harder than you give him credit. 2: Guys react to knock outs a lot of different ways. It changes every time
Other Major Truth Is: 1: Floyd hits a lot harder than you give him credit. 2: Ortiz wasnt expecting the punch.. its much worse when you dont expect the punch coming
money da **** but that KO on saturday was a bit different because floyd caught the clown off gaurd and money got 2 free shots. clown boy was looking away and didnt even see the right hand.
That 1-2 from Floyd caught him totally off guard. Especially the 2nd shot. Ortiz was looking at the ref when he got cracked. It's the punches that you dont see that effect you the most.
Ortiz's behaviour was just strange in general. He was getting outboxed and nailed, true, but he also seemed to land a few good shots in that fourth round and drove Floyd back into the ropes with his combinations. Then he decides to commit one of the most blatant possible fouls by literally leaping into a headbutt? After this he kisses Floyd on the cheek, apologises, and then apologises yet again, his defence completely down while in punching distance. Floyd lands a hook, Ortiz STILL doesn't put his guard up or even try to evade more blows but instead just looks at Cortez. Floyd appears to pause for a moment, as if to assess the situation, then throws that right hand and floors him. Ortiz is all smiley afterwards and doesn't seem to care much about the fact that he was just knocked out by a cheap shot. You also have Floyd's behaviour -- putting his hands on Ortiz's throat at the weigh-in, fighting more aggressively than usual in the actual bout, and then exploding at Merchant in an even more extreme way than he did after the Baldomir match. It was just a bizarre night. If Ortiz DID quit, then it wasn't after the sucker punch...it was when he launched himself into that obvious headbutt. He didn't try to conceal it or slip it in -- it was like a kid lashing out on the playground, knowing the consequences but doing it anyway. The fact that he kept apologising and never tried to defend himself also seems to indicate that, at that point, he just didn't want to be in the ring anymore. It's weird, but that's the only way I can make sense of it all. Ortiz seems to be someone like Judah, who just has unpredictable mental meltdowns. Even when he's upset or crushed he covers it up with a big grin and tries to sound completely casual. (Apparently he broke down and was crying in his changing room after the fight?)
Ortiz probably felt he deserved it because of the headbutt earlier, he knows he did something really wrong when he did it and thats why he was apologizing 3 times to floyd. I think when he looks the whole thing back he will be a little more pissed. He is a ***** for smiling like that after getting suckerpunched though
I think the pucnh berto landed in the 6th or 7th was much harder than anything floyd landed on him lets not forget ortiz was turning and walked right into bertos punch i actually thought he wasnt gonna make it outta that round.
Woah everyone knows when your arms are down and YOUR NECK IS RELAXED, any hard punch can knock you out. Ortiz was completely relaxed and that's why he got hurt - it's not like a Tyson punch where even if you brace it will knock you off your feet, that was a good shot that he simply did not think was coming (worse than the punch you don't see because he was relaxed like in between rounds, just standing straight up). His head got snapped back because he just wasn't prepared to take a punch. No doubt in my mind he was badly hurt, but it was an average Mayweather punch, not indicative of amazing Mayweather punching power. He hits hard, but not devastatingly hard.
This and it was right on the chin. Ortiz looked like he had no idea where he was or what just happened.
Ok maybe I over exaggerated but Ortiz's behavior was strange and you cannot doubt that it was possible he was looking for a way out. There are signs and quitters have habits. There was an article recently where Robert Garcia stated that Ortiz quit against Amir Khan in the amatuers and some other dude by keeping his hands down and not protecting himself. Maybe someone can find the link.