Proof that PacMan won the fight!

Uhm. Thats not really how it works. But I'm so tired of this topic I won't even explain.

 

compubox doesn't prove anything this is not amateur boxing.

 

different judges. not double standards

 

Pac was handed the decision, your boy 'won', isnt that enough for you? Most agree it could have gone either way, so regardless of who got the decision, it would not prove the fighter better than the other. They are about as evenly matched as can be.

 

Ok, briefly:

Compubox numbers count landed punches, but do not carry any final bearing in how a fight is judged.

Quite simply, they quantify the number of punches landed, but do not qualify the relative effectiveness of those punches.

In the amateuer boxing ranks, landed punches are tallied and counted. In pro boxing, judges have no access to compubox #'s, because their judging criteria is completely different (clean punching, effective aggresion, ring generalship).

Finally, compubox #'s are a tool (and I emphasize only a tool) for the viewing audience to have a reference point from which to judge scoring and interpret results.

 

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this thread will shut the haters I am telling you.. :good

 

This is a perfect example. Scoring a round for a fighter in the pro ranks is not this simple.

If fighter A lands 20 punches, and fighter B lands 6 punches, fighter B can still win the round if his 6 punches are deemed more effective than the 20 landed punches from his opponent.

Given this logic, its not unreasonable for Marquez to win the first round. Its up to the criteria of the judges, some of which were obviously impressed with the right hand he landed during that round.

 

People are desperate for an argument when they provide something as meaningless as Compubox as "proof" that a guy won.

It was a very close fight that could have gone either way. Who deserved to win is depending on one's perspective. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you guys, especially Pacquiao fan boys, could remove the fighters' schlongs outta your throats, you'd realize this.

 

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You don't agree with me so I commence with the name calling!!

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Also, compubox numbers DO lie. They are simply done by humans clicking a button. They could very well miss shots, AND they count partially landed blows. 6-7 clean punches beats 15 partially blocked ones in my book.

 

Yes, and I am thinking more and more lately that glove shots are counted as landed punches.

Imagine sitting in a roaring audience, with fighters as fast as these guys, given all the action, and having to click that button for every punch landed. Added to that, sometimes your angle is terrible, or the ref is in the way, or one of the fighters lunged in and the crowd screamed but your not sure if the punch was landed- oh and no time to think about that because now more punches are being landed!

 

Yes, Compubox is subject to human error, especially when you have world class boxers throwing fast shots in the blink of an eye.

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/chee/chee0626a05.htm

Gatti 41 of 125, 17%
Mayweather 168 of 295, 57%


Gatti landed 41 punches on Mayweather?


http://blogs.usatoday.com/sportsscope/2007/05/de_la_hoya_vs_m.html?csp=34

Mayweather credited with landing 207 punches to De La Hoya's 122, according to PunchStat by HBO


Mayweather landed 207 on De La Hoya? Did they count punches to the gloves as landed? DLH landed 122?


http://www.canoe.ca/BoxingDeLaHoyaTrinidad/sep18_maj.html

A CompuBox punch analysis credited De La Hoya with landing 263 of 648 punches, while Trinidad connected on 166 of 462.


Watch this fight in full and tell me that Tito landed 166 punches, and DLH landed 263.

 

JMM was definetly landing the cleaner punches, he did a good job at blocking Pacs left most of the time too.