proof Wilder doing everything to prevent Unification for 7 years

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  1. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fraud and parasite are the perfect words
     
  2. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    What odds for Wilder V Usyk for undisputed in 2022?
     
  3. GasTank

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    This current generation of HW (post WALD) is just getting to its peak. Wilder first became champ in 2015. Joshua in 2016. They were just entering the elite level. This is now the prime for Joshua, Wilder (maybe late prime), Fury, Uysk and somebody is going to be the best of this generation.

    This summer feels like the semifinals. If AJ and Fury both get through their test then they'll play for the championship which will be 2 fights.

    Right now we don't have a true #1 since Wilder and Fury have not faced AJ or Uysk yet.
     
  4. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

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    Its probably about a 12.5% chance it turns out that way if you give Uysk a 25% and Wilder a 25% chance of getting the W.

    Fury many would argue really beat Wilder twice already to his advantage. There is also a question to me is Wilder is going to be the same Wilder.

    AJ has the high KO ratio at HW. For most its too much to handle by the second half of the fight. Uysk hasn't been as dominating at HW.
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Wilder wins will he finally the accept an offer to unify? Even against AJ? If not it would be a duck for the ages.
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  7. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder is gonna be 3 years on from that first fight where he couldn’t put Fury away despite him being rusty as, he had no strength from the weight loss. Usyk is just too small in my opinion, he won’t affect AJ if he plays it safe - he could be a surprise package but I can’t see it.
     
  8. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder will pull out of the Fury fight.
     
  9. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    About time Fury made a defense of a title.
     
  10. BubblesUK

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    Depends why he passed on the opportunity before...

    Option 1:
    If he wanted a bigger cut, that would explain why he was keen to take on Fury - not just because he thought he was shot and an easy win, but because it would make it easier for him to argue his resume warranted an even split.

    If his motivation for passing up on the AJ fight in the first place was financial, it would go a long way to explaining why he's so desperate to get Fury back in the ring (pricing himself out of step aside money) - he needs to beat Fury in order to get back in the frame for that mega payday with AJ that he lost by taking on Fury in the first place.
    Doesn't matter that he'd still be 2-1 down, he'd hold the belt and if Joshua wanted to become undisputed he'd have to sit down and talk.

    Option 2:
    If he ducked AJ the first time because he was trying to protect his unbeaten record and preferred to continue building a resume of lesser fighters...

    Well his unbeaten record is gone now, so whatever legacy he feels he deserves to leave behind is going to have to be built on something other than being undefeated - so why not take on Joshua and potentially boost his resume significantly?

    Option 3:
    He just straight up doesn't believe he can beat Joshua, has no intention of ever fighting him and wouldn't even consider trying to unify unless someone else holds those belts.

    ....

    All this is contingent on him somehow winning the third time around - realistically he's got to come back mentally strong enough (will he?) and he's got to either come back with improved skills or simply get lucky enough to land that hail mary and Fury not get up from it again... I'd probably give him a 10% chance of winning, and that's probably pretty generous.
     
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  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    You reckon?

    I don't really see why he'd want to.
    - If he's ready to retire it's a decent payday which doesn't really harm his legacy (in that he's already lost twice).
    - If he wants to carry on, he'd earn more money with the belt than without, even if he just fights cans and avoids unification - it seems unlikely he'd win it back, but it's still a big payday by Wilders standards and doesn't stop him from fighting as a non-champion just as he would if he skipped Fury.

    The only real reason I can see that he'll back out is if he's only interested in sabotaging Fury-AJ out of petty spite... But that ain't worth giving up millions in step aside cash, I don't buy that he'd do that.
     
  12. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A 3rd Fury fight now would be the end of his career, esp with his team in shambles. He’s made over 80 mil USD in boxing so money might not be the most important motivating factor. Wilder has promised revenge on Fury and for a morally debased person like himself sabotaging Fury’s career would be an appealing option.
     
  13. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, people saw Wilder leaving the area and and screaming B000000mb Squaaaad!!!
     
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