Props to Haye and Booth for "manning up".

CHEF · Jul 4, 2011

shaunster101 said: ↑

I was also impressed with Haye's defence, it surprised me. He spent a large part of the fight stood in front of Wlad within his range with his hands down by his waist and his chin in the air and was able to make him miss.

I think Haye's head movement definitely limited the amount of right hands that Wlad threw, hence why we didn't see a knockout.

I quite enjoyed the fight as it played out more or less exactly as I expected. I think that if you bought into the hype then you was going to be disappointed. If you looked at the skills and physical attributes of each fighter objectively then you would expect a fight like the one on Saturday

Wlad's defensive work was brilliant. His reflexes are great so the moment the opponent looks set to throw he steps back and out of range, leavin his opponent missing wildly. I just wish that he would have done as Steward was telling him and make sure that when he steps back he does so with a hook.

Haye was all over the place when he was diving in, but Wlad was only concerned with making sure he was out of the way of Haye's punches rather than capitalising on David's mistakes. That's where the knock out was going to come from because Haye's head movement meant he was was hard to pin down and catch with a clean shot. However, when he jumped in he was off balance and wide open.

That's just the way Wlad fights though.
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excellent post:good

Relentless · Jul 4, 2011

shaunster101 said: ↑

I was also impressed with Haye's defence, it surprised me. He spent a large part of the fight stood in front of Wlad within his range with his hands down by his waist and his chin in the air and was able to make him miss.

I think Haye's head movement definitely limited the amount of right hands that Wlad threw, hence why we didn't see a knockout.

I quite enjoyed the fight as it played out more or less exactly as I expected. I think that if you bought into the hype then you was going to be disappointed. If you looked at the skills and physical attributes of each fighter objectively then you would expect a fight like the one on Saturday

Wlad's defensive work was brilliant. His reflexes are great so the moment the opponent looks set to throw he steps back and out of range, leavin his opponent missing wildly. I just wish that he would have done as Steward was telling him and make sure that when he steps back he does so with a hook.

Haye was all over the place when he was diving in, but Wlad was only concerned with making sure he was out of the way of Haye's punches rather than capitalising on David's mistakes. That's where the knock out was going to come from because Haye's head movement meant he was was hard to pin down and catch with a clean shot. However, when he jumped in he was off balance and wide open.

That's just the way Wlad fights though.
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from what i heard and figured haye's team basically didnt work on offense at all, most of the sparring sessions with helenius, david price etc they practiced elusiveness.

antonio8904 · Jul 4, 2011

CHEF said: ↑

Booth was the same way in the ring after the fight. Shaking hands and giving congrats to every Klitschko team member. Telling us.."wlad was amazing. so fast, much faster then we thought".... "Wlad won this fight and I have no problem with it at all"good

like I said the entire time... difference of the fight...Hayes offense vs Wlads defense:good
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this...^

antonio8904 · Jul 4, 2011

shaunster101 said: ↑

I was also impressed with Haye's defence, it surprised me. He spent a large part of the fight stood in front of Wlad within his range with his hands down by his waist and his chin in the air and was able to make him miss.

I think Haye's head movement definitely limited the amount of right hands that Wlad threw, hence why we didn't see a knockout.

I quite enjoyed the fight as it played out more or less exactly as I expected. I think that if you bought into the hype then you was going to be disappointed. If you looked at the skills and physical attributes of each fighter objectively then you would expect a fight like the one on Saturday

Wlad's defensive work was brilliant. His reflexes, control of distance and sheer physical size are so great that the moment the opponent looks set to throw he steps back and out of range, leaving his opponent missing wildly. I just wish that he would have done as Steward was telling him and make sure that when he steps back he does so with a hook.

Haye was all over the place when he was diving in, but Wlad was only concerned with making sure he was out of the way of Haye's punches rather than capitalising on David's mistakes. That's where the knock out was going to come from because Haye's head movement meant he was was hard to pin down and catch with a clean shot when he was in his defensive stance. However, when he jumped in to attack Wlad he was off balance and wide open.

That's just the way Wlad fights though.
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this...^

Escopeta · Jul 4, 2011

All these excuses about his little toe are still utterly disgusting especially since everyone knows that Haye has a long history of bringing those kind of excuses up after the very most of his fights but at least he shows some sportsmanship and personality

shaunster101 said: ↑

I was also impressed with Haye's defence, it surprised me. He spent a large part of the fight stood in front of Wlad within his range with his hands down by his waist and his chin in the air and was able to make him miss.
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Yep but within 12 rounds Haye landed exactly 7 punches more on Wlad than Kevin Johnson landed on Vitali according to compubox. Yet Kevin Johnson was some disgusting fat bum who just came for the paycheck.
agree with the rest of your post overall..

shaunster101 · Jul 4, 2011

Escopeta said: ↑

All these excuses about his little toe are still utterly disgusting especially since everyone knows that Haye has a long history of bringing those kind of excuses up after the very most of his fights but at least he shows some sportsmanship and personality

Yep but within 12 rounds Haye landed exactly 7 punches more on Wlad than Kevin Johnson landed on Vitali according to compubox. Yet Kevin Johnson was some disgusting fat bum who just came for the paycheck.
agree with the rest of your post overall..
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Haye faced the same problem as the rest of Wlad's opponents - the combination of his footwork and jab allow him to pin his opponents back, meaning that they are so focused on defence that they cannot get their offence going. If Wlad gave his opponents more time and space to think then they would be a lot more successful in setting up attacks against him.

However, with the way Wlad makes them fight off of the back foot they just don't have the time or space to think about setting up the kind of attack that would trouble him. Hence all fighters find it difficult to land on him with any consistency

Unforgiven · Jul 4, 2011

Haye and Booth are still spouting excuses, everything from having doctors try to drug them, to TV cameramen standing in their way during the fight, and the crowd trying to stamp on Haye's bad toe !

Guybino · Jul 4, 2011

congratz to Wlad, Haye you let me down.

I dont want to hear anymore about this fight.

BoxingDomain · Jul 4, 2011

Relentless said: ↑

i already gave waldo credit you ***git.

i said he finally proved to me he's a true ATG

i still believe Haye can beat any other heavyweight except for the klits.
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You think I go through and search all of your posts? Not happening

In the official "give credit or not" thread I made (http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275533 ), you said you wouldn't. If you changed your tune since then, that's great. You manned up.

Relentless · Jul 4, 2011

most of you ***gits have me confused with other klit haters, i am a genuine haye fan and have been for a long time, most just supported him because they hated klits and when he lost they shat on him, bandwagon fans.

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