Props To Margarito!!! Thoughts On Tonight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by acb, Jul 26, 2008.


  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    First off, I was wrong. I want to extend congrats to Margo and his long time fans here, in particular Ambition Def who I have argued with forever about Margo. I was wrong, you (you all who had Margo) were right.

    Cotto made two tactical errors. He laid on the ropes and never established a body attack. Margo took advantage, sucked it up, and had the accomplishment of his boxing career. Props to him for doing what it is that he does.

    Our obsession (mine at times) with skill sets on ESB has hit the wall with velocity. Again, we should be looking at effectiveness and intangibles more. I honestly thought Cotto had too much for Margo but was obviously wrong.

    Hail the new king.
     
  2. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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  3. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Your point in the thread is similar to the one made by Sweetpea this day, about the skills being not only the sole crtitical factor in determining the outcome of a fight.
     
  4. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Of course, many here, thought the skills of Cotto will predictably overcome the size and ferocity of a limited Margarito.
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I have to agree with your assement of the fight ..Though I felt Cotto was doing enough upstairs he didn't do enough down stairs to slow Antonio down ..He should have focused on the body more but its hard not to when the target is right there .Everytime Miguel threw that left it found its mark ,too bad for Cotto though who knew Margarito has a head of solid iron !!Margarito is the new IRON MAN fall back Tony Starks !!:rofl:rofl
     
  6. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the fact that Margarito's head was so easy to hit may have had something to do with Cotto neglecting to attack his body.
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Not a good strategy though. In a sense, Cotto went away from his bread and butter all these years.
     
  8. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    yes..i mean why target the body when his face was more open and prone to countershots, cotto did the obvious thing it was not an error imo. We all knew that cotto is a force in terms of punching power. What people overlooked was is margo's chin, i know margo is tough and has a solid chin but i didn't know it was more solid than i thought until this point
     
  9. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    i agree one of the errors was he didn't go throught with the body but i think its an understandable error because margo was more open to the head, margo perhaps learned in the early round that his chin can hold up and can take cotto's punches so i think he continued to sacrifice the head.

    And yes i think cotto was wrong to rely on the ropes, blocking most of tony's shot(it still hurted him though), he used more body movement to avoid shots. What he should have done was clinch occasionally, cotto only clinched twice during the entire fight and it was effective imo. It save him time and allowed him to rest for a while also breaking off margo's tempo and saving himself from danger instead of relying on backing up on the ropes
     
  10. MexChamps

    MexChamps Active Member Full Member

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    One of Cotto's errors was fighting off the ropes like he always does. Cotto flaws in the fights have been going on for his whole career
    He fades late in fights he fights off the ropes and he gets hurt easy why are Cotto fans shock do you guys even watch hif fights? Im not a cotto fan and knew his weaknesses going into the fight
     
  11. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    for the first 6 rounds i had cotto 4, 1 marg and 1 even.. and prior to the stoppage round,i had cotto comfortable ahead.

    i just couldnt see, that margo´s shots was as solid as cotto´s or connected with the same precision. he really showed what he is capable of. i was impressed, and sure as hell couldnt not foresee, margo turning it around

    margo´s work didtn seem to be so sharp, but his relentless pressure and body work just took out cotto out. he knew he had to take 2 to the head, to deliver one to the body.

    that man must have the toughest chin and strongest will in modern boxing. i rooted all the way for margo, him being the underdog.

    the thing that margo did, was inspiring. he knew he was going be outboxed, and hit with some monster shots. BUT he came through and he showed, that with a strong mindset, iron chin and belief, that its possible..

    when you see a guy boxing excellently, doing everything right due to awesome skills, your impressed as hell, but for me this is equally as impressive. perhaps even more, that will, that determination.. thats just something i admire..

    what the hell does it take mentally to get hit with such shots, just shrug em of, and keep coming.. insanity perhaps ;-)

    on another note, why the hell do they take their children to the fight, who in their right mind lets their sons or daughters watch, when they are fighting. personally i think thats discusting, there sure as hell isnt anything good coming out of that.
     
  12. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree man. I'm very disappointed, but hey Margarito did his thing.

    I dont think it was so much that Cotto was doing body work. I think he wasnt able to b/c Marg did a great job covering the body.

    perhaps, that was his gameplan. he knew cotto couldnt hurt him so he didnt care if cotto hit him in the head.

    but, like many other cotto fans, i was wrong.

    while, i still believe Cotto is the better fighter, margarito was the better man last night.

    Rematch anyone?
     
  13. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Great post, in particular the last part. I dont understand this either.
     
  14. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOADS of so called boxing annalysts hwve been wrong out there, AND especially on here...you admit it, some don't, and cry ROBBED!! ETC,, I liked Cottos' when he took the loss gracefully... have been wrong many times as well..good ost also :good
     
  15. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great post man!:good