Props to the new heavy weight hope Solis

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Odo, Jun 17, 2007.


  1. boxeo#1

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    hey! I saw Solis debute in Hamburg, I was sitting ringside. Obvious he is way fatter then he was in the olympics.
    I am also not sold at all on his trainer and management as well.

    What imo as well affects him, and the other cubans (barthelemy and gamboa), is that they are drowned in gold watches, luxury, etc etc. That might sound stupid, but they come from a pretty poor environment..
     
  2. David B

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    Solis comes from poverty to wealth.
    The big question is can he handle it?
    The weight gain so early on in his pro career is a very negative sign.
    Another question mark is does he have a chin?
    Talented cuban fighters like Jorge Luis Gonzales,Gomez and Hurtado proved to be very good technical fighters but were all knocked out, only Casamayor seems to be the exception.
     
  3. Butch Coolidge

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    His amatuer exploits indicate he's going to be a top pro. Hopefully he can avoid the distractions that come from having money in a land of plenty. Thus far he is moving at an impressive rate. His team must have a lot of confidence in him.
     
  4. Alcaldemb

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    He looks more solid than his weight gain would indicate, that said I'd still like him to get back down to around 230, not his amateur weight but only about ten pounds north of it.

    Sidon was a good first fight but remember Andreas is 44 and has been KO'd before, and not by huge punchers so put that in perspective. As for the Mazikin KO it just strikes me as odd. Solis did not have leverage on that punch and it clearly glanced off his should before hitting his head, Mazikin may have been legitimately knocked down, but to me it looks like he laid down in that fight.

    Odo I am not sure Mazikin is as tough as you say. He did go the full route with Bidenk but Bidenko has power on par with Byrd, not much, and Mazikin also came into that fight weighing 236, he came into this fight weighing 251.5. Solis is a good fighter, and he does have two very good first wins. That said give Sidon's age and chin and given Mazikin's shape and how the punch landed I would caution against overrating him based on these wins.
     
  5. WestSideBoxer

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    We know what he's capable to do, based on his amateur career (one of the all-time best amateurs)
     
  6. WestSideBoxer

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    He has one of the Best chins right now in the Pro ranks, in his 14 loses in the Amateurs (he had 227 wins), he was never stopped.

    In the final of the World Championships, Haye throwed a vicious punch that landed on his chin, he was stunned, but recover really great and quick and later stopped Haye.
     
  7. Alcaldemb

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    While a stellar amateur career does hold promise for future professional success one must remember the two games are very different.
     
  8. David B

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    if you are getting stunned by a cruiserweight imagine what Wladimir could do .Let's wait and see,the jury is out there.It is nice however his level of competition is so high so early,so you got to give him respect for that.
     
  9. Shpion

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    That's what they said about Vlad, and look what happened.

    Lets wait and see, ok.
     
  10. WestSideBoxer

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    Haye packs and increidible punch on his right hand and that uppercut was right on the chin, and he was just stunned like 2 seconds and had an amazing recovery.

    Also, he was never stopped in the amateurs, and he faced big punchers in the Heavyweight and in the SuperHeavyweight division.
     
  11. WestSideBoxer

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    I know that, just look at Tyrell Biggs.

    But if people overrate Povetkin because of his amatuer career, and difficult opponents in the beggining of his Pro career.

    Why not, do the same with Odlanier Solis? :huh
     
  12. David B

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    Let's wait and see how he reacts when tagged on the chin and body in the later rounds.fighting 3 or 4 rounds is a different game because in the pros fatigue also plays a role. I'm looking forward to his first 10-rounder.
     
  13. Alcaldemb

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    People are really getting on Povetkin's bandwagon because he beat Friday Ahunanya, Richard Bango and David Bostice in convincing fashion. The most converts to Povetkin's cause seem to have comeon after his destruction of Bostice in two rounds, previously to that it took Brock twelve rounds and Krasniqi ten rounds to win a decision versus him.

    If Povetkin beats Donald, even more impressively if he stops him, he will be considered easily the number one prospect at heavyweight.

    Solis is very good, and Sidon was a good first win and Mazikin a good second but you need more than two fights to be the next great heavyweight.
     
  14. Vantage_West

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    im actually worried the fans put him in too fast he should fight solid fighters and with the best modern heavywieght amatuer career he should fight 20 more times against really tough opposition.

    im really rooting for this guy. jah bless to solis
     
  15. Vantage_West

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    i know this is wiered but becuase he is fighting in europe and lives and has a visa in germany.....do you think he will fight for the european title?

    if so there are loads of decent heavies to fight with out rising to the top too quickly