Props to the new heavy weight hope Solis

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Odo, Jun 17, 2007.


  1. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is simply not true as Povetkin has just as many major tournament wins, and more of his tournament wins were at the international level, in less time and less fights than Solis. Also, if you include his kickboxing titles, he has more wins in a comparable period of time, once again at mostly the international level.
     
  2. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    I don't agree completely with this. Most of the Cubans are so well schooled that even when their heart or will is not 100% there they can still win (easily) just because they are just like machines.

    For example take Yoan Pablo Hernandez. Cuban heavy champ 2005 and lost to a tough makarenko in the olympics. he turned pro in germany, I saw his last fight (among others), he thinks he the man, fighting sloppy, the only way he keeps on wiining is because his whole arsenal of evrything is just monstrous.

    Peace!
     
  3. WestSideBoxer

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    Good post!
     
  4. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is because his last fight was against Avila, who mind you got blown out by Alekseev in one.

    Former Olympians should beat journeymen, it is when they step up that this attitude you are talking about lets you down. If you think you are too good but don't put in the work to be in shape or improve as a fighter when you step up you will fall down.

    This is why I have grown increasily pessimistic about Cuban fighters. Once they leave Cuba they seem to fall apart.
     
  5. boxeo#1

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    yeah too bad huh:-( The main reason is I guess they can't handle the wealth. Especially when things are changing too fast.

    Their perfect technique can bring them very far.. but in the end you also need heart and will to stay at the top... I hope Solis can do it.. but unfortunately I doubt it...

    Ps: I acually trained in Cuba for 3,5 weeks in case you might want to know anything about something.. maybe I know it:good
     
  6. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are right,alcademb!
    Very difficult to top Povetkin in terms of merits at the amateurs,isnt it!
    Solis was a great amateur,too.
    And so far he has even been matched tougher than Povetkin at the pros-and Povetkin has been matched bloody toughly.
    Both Solis and Povetkin have proven track records at the amateurs,and both seem to be on the way to make a lot of noise at the pros ,too.
    Watch out,Wlad! The hungry lions are approaching and on the way to get you!
     
  7. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the problem is that they are used to a very regimented system and many of them, once outside of it, lose that forced discipline. As far as Solis I think he is one of those people that just put on weight. If you look at pictures of him at 200 or 215-220 he had a fat face and neck, a little hard to hide those neck folds. This is why the Cubans kept him busy, they knew if he fought less often he would go up in weight. Look at it like this, Chagaev fought 95 times, Povetkin 132, Solis 241, I think that was clearly done to keep his weight down.
     
  8. Sonny in Dallas

    Sonny in Dallas New Member Full Member

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    Jimmy is correct. I believe Solis comes to America and feasts on the journeymen in 6-8 more fights and then goes after top 1o talent.
     
  9. Manning

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    Amazing how most peoples opinion changed on this young buck. I still have some faith that he can yet turn into a proper serious force that can wrestle the titles away from K2.
     
  10. larryx2012

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