Pros/Former pros take on if Dubois shot was legal.

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  1. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Dmitry Salita calling it a low-blow.
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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  3. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its not even a 'blip on the radar'. Idiots can carry on all they like and display their own ignorance for the world to see. Usyk cleaned up his opponent and onto the next one.
     
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  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    this time it will be incumbent upon the big dosser (did i say that right?) to go 50/50. he'll duck. quack quack. XD
     
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  5. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    How do you think that will work out for them? Camp Usyk are not armchair Generals. They do this **** for a living. I suspect that they are aware of Usyk's weaknesses (if that is actually the case) and the opportunity that weakness presents. Could become interesting.
     
  6. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pros/former pros who say that was not a low blow are just jealous of Usyk's success. He is guilty for conquering cruiserweight and heavyweight divisions and for being from the East.
     
  7. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The reality is it was obviously close and some refs would have let it go and some wouldn't, particularly live without replays and still shots.
    In that sense Usyk probably was fortunate, whether or not it was legal.

    But the reality is that Dubious is hitting fabric, so he should expect it to be called low even if it's not the lowest of the low. If you want your big uppercut to be called legal, then make sure it's not so low that it can be called low by a ref. You can't cry about it being called low when you are shooting it at best right on the border of what is deemed acceptable. And you can see Dubious was swinging low at other times, hitting hips and so on, which means he's aiming low on purpose because he's actually taller than Usyk.

    The other thing is that nobody knows if it was a fight ending shot, so stop acting like it was. Usyk wouldn't have reacted like that if it was deemed legal, he would try to cover his hurt rather then sell it, which he might have done possibly. And almost certainly he gets up and tries to survive, which he likely could do with evasion and grappling, given his massive experience. So it wasn't like he got KO'd cold by a shot called an illegal rabbit punch that turned out to be on the side of the head.

    In the end there are other controversial things in fights that 'fair play' complainers in this case don't care about, whether it's mayweather suckerpunching Ortiz, or Ward's headbutting and low blows, or Wlad headbutting Fury, or Wilder getting helped between rounds in the Ortiz fight. There are also plenty of KD's called slips and slips called KD's and everything else, often that decided fights.

    Dubious had a massive youth and size advantage here and likely a big PED one too and couldn't get the job done. The reason is he's another UK hype job and failed brand who also turned out to be a quitter. A two-time quitter already at this young age. Another mouthy thug fighter dressed up by the UK media, who can't handle it when it comes back and got KO'd by a jab, just like his LHW equivalent in Yarde. Hilarious!
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Salido should have been disqualified, but even with all the low blows I still scored it for Lomachenko. Ward's low blows TKO "win" over Kovalev is the epitome of fraudulent and should be changed to a NC. Mares should have been disqualified for the shocking number of ball shots he landed on Agbeko. Then the ref DQing Zhan against Ajagba, for using his testicles as bongos was completely justified. So I'm pretty consistent with my anti-low blow stance.

    Serge might, but I will make no such promises.:nonono
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Chill CST lol
     
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  10. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is plenty of shots of his naval below tne belt line in the fight, including when he took the shot and when he fell, and when he got back up
     
  11. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    " [..] actually appearing above his trunks when he breaths [..]"

    It was hidden right beneath the belt which covered all the areas considered illegal; the fact that it showed up at times is a clear indicator that his trunks weren't high (hence why the referee did not instruct the belt blows as being a fair play as he would in other cases.)
     
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  12. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury will tax that fuzzy navel easily with his long reach…. Close to Zero chance of getting countered.
    & I really don’t care for Fury.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Usyk will negate that reach of his with the greatest of ease, get on the inside an tax that tender belly of his, until he keels over. If Wallin got to him with relative ease, so will Usyk, whos 10 times the fighter that Otto is.
     
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  14. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe that’s why the Gypsy Queen is reluctant to face him or any other pro boxer not named Wilder
    I do hope your right, but that reach advantage is rediculous.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Watch a little of the Wallin match, who even though he's billed as 6'6, he's 6'4 at best. Fury is smart enough to see the writing on the wall with Usyk. Which is why he's scared shitless of him.
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