Prospect Scouting Reports: Joshua, Bivol, Tanaka, J. Ramirez and more

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  1. coltaine

    coltaine Member Full Member

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    Over on Bad Left Hook a user named Radu has published a series of fanposts providing in-depth ****ysis of the strengths and weaknesses of some of the most interesting propsects right now. These posts don't reach much of an audience over there and they're way too insightful to fall under the radar, so I figured I'd post them here for your perusal. If he publishes any more I'll add them to the OP.

    Here are the links so far:
    Anthony Joshua     (posted April 2015)
    Dmitry Bivol
    Kosei Tanaka     (posted just before the Saludar fight)
    Jose Carlos Ramirez
    Saul Rodriguez
    Joseph 'JoJo' Diaz Jr.
    Brian Castano
    Callum Smith
    22 year old Evander Holyfield
    Oleksandr Usyk
    Errol Spence Jr.
    Artur Beterbiev
     
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  2. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Tanaka one is really interesting, he was dropped the following fight and has now made it clear he's moving up, having our grown the weight.

    As for the lack of Takuma Inoue footage...there really has been a lack but there is a fair bit out there now. Something probably to do with locale, Nagoya REALLY likes to hype it's guys whilst Tokyo is a bit more packed with stars.
     
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  3. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    Brian Castano beat both Errol Spence and Serhiy Derevianchenko in the ams? Very impressive if really true!
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I've done threads on all of them except for Jo Jo Diaz.
     
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  5. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    he is really worth a thread, I rate him highly anyway:good

    I don't really like this guys style of ****ysis, he is trying to be objective and through but he comes across as reaching to find praise and fault.

    not too make you big headed cst but I prefer your style of short brief background, brief ****ysis and then the videos so you can decide for yourself
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thanks for the compliment, I don't want to make people's minds up for them, I just want to expose them to these guys, hence the Educate Yourselves tagline.

    Don't worry you're not going to give me a big head.:lol: I've had that since I was a child.:yep

    I like Jo Jo but for some reason I've just never got around to it. Maybe I will in the next few days, I went almost a year before doing one on Julian Ramirez even though I had him on a short list when I first started doing them back in Sept of 2014.
     
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  7. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    :lol::lol: I guess it does require a bit of effort to get around to it:good

    oh my tip for the future is Michael Nevin on the irish side:good

    iv high hopes for Devin Haney too
     
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  8. coltaine

    coltaine Member Full Member

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    I enjoy CST's threads too, I think they serve a slightly different purpose though. Personally, I don't have an eye nuanced enough to pick out all the things a fighter is great at or needs to work on, so I appreciate when folks explain some of the little details. It's interesting watching the fights with these subtleties in mind--a learning experience for me really--even if I find I disagree in certain cases. When fighters get to the top level it can be these little things that can often decide fights.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not bad, especially considering English is clearly not Radu's 1st language.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thanks, you did a pretty good job on the Castano thread that I read I'll get to the rest of them when I have more time. I know two guys on here named Radu now.:lol: You and Beastside Boxing.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The little I've seen of Haney he looks decent, I haven't seen very much Michael Nevin yet.:oops: Other than the fight with his cousin John Joe.
     
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  12. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    this is a different Michael Nevin, that other Michael Nevin is in jail I think:lol:

    Michael Nevin is the current European youth champion and is underage again next year. to win this year euro youth he beat Bibert Tumenov a reign world youth champion who was over a year older than him. they kid is amazing

    I like haney, also liked that he just turned 17 and has turned pro
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :patsch:lol:

    Good because that Michael Nevin looked like s*** IIRC.

    I'll have to keep an eye out for him.:good
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    coltaine isn't Radu, just reposting the guy's stuff here from BLH.

    (I think)
     
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  15. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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