Provodnikov should be undefeated

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I can see why people getting swept up in the moment thought it should have been ruled a knockdown. Bradley was absolutely shaken up and hurt badly.

Still, technically, within the rules, what happened there did not fit the definition of a 'knockdown'. Russell made a good call.

 

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...of course, Tim ignored him for much of the rest of the night, like a dummy...but everything Joel was telling him was correct.

 

Ruslan won the Herrera fight. It was not close. Robbery. And again robbed against bradley. The first kd wasn't just a kd. If it had been ruled a kd when tim got up n fell back down on his face the fight woulda been waved off. Then in the 12th....come on. You get beat the hell up til u out on your feet multiple times and then in the 12 it's happening again and you take a damn knee with seconds left?!?! In my book, you LOST! I don't look at it like he was robbed of a decision (tho he was) I look at it like he was robbed of a tko! Bradley himself said he wasn't right for months. Ref failed to protect tim in that fight. Yes he should be undefeated. And he has more attributes than power. I just mention one, and I've said many times...I've never seen anyone cut a ring off like ruslan. He doesn't do it all the time but when he goes into that mode...the guy truly seems dangerous. Hope to god he gets to fight someone significant soon. Gotta get that arum option out the way.

 

Ruslan lost the Corley fight. It was not close. Robbery.

 

The controversy in that fight wasn't the outcome it was the scores being to wide. Ruslan won. But hometown judges had it to wide. Try again

 

No Corley should have won anyway; the wide scores just made it even worse, much like the 8-4 scores did in Provodnikov-Herrera. You cannot sit here and pretend that the Herrera fight was any more of a robbery than the Corley one.

 

It was close, but Corley definitely should have gotten it.

Provodnikov was up 5-1 on my card at the halfway point, but Corley took over from there. He bloodied Provodnikov in the eight and ninth and then swept the championship rounds with surprising command of the much younger unbeaten hometown fighter - shredding his face even further and looking at times on the verge of stopping the increasingly fatigued and defenseless Russian. Best case for Provodnikov was a draw, as far as scoring the boxing match - but in terms of the "fight", Corley won it hands down.

It never gets discussed much because most people never saw it to begin with (it was in Russia, at noontime EST on a Monday...) and for those who did it was quickly overshadowed in their memories of that day by the Kovalev vs. Simakov tragedy.

The scorecards were a JOKE.

 

"Cite a rulebook or something"? Are you joking?

Watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlVQO71PbQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=428

Provodnikov hurts Bradley with an OH right, fully rotating his shoulder into the shot and landing flush on the face. (very similar to what Pacquiao got KTFO by in Marquez IV, actually)

Excellent punch, would have knocked many welters out cold...and damn near did Bradley. Hats off to Provodnikov for timing it perfectly and to Roach for probably drilling that with him repeatedly in camp.

Then Bradley, knowing he is rattled, dives in to rest with his arms barred up on Provodnikov. Yes, a short left hook lands for Provodnikov, but they keep wrestling as Bradley attempts to hold, and then (not seen in that slow motion replay as it cuts short to begin the 2nd) Provodnikov misses a clubbing right and with its downward momentum aiding basically shoves Bradley down with both forearms lain across his back.

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlVQO71PbQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=359

The entire sequence of events:

5:59 - Provodnikov loads up the overhand right.
6:00 - it connects.
6:01 - Bradley is flopping around, reaching out to hold.
6:02 - successful hold applied.
6:03 - short, grazing left hook from Provodnikov.
6:04 - Provodnikov slams down with the right hand, missing Bradley's head as Bradley dives low to grab him around the waist again, both of Provodnikov's arms then pressing into his back resulting in Bradley getting pushed straight down onto his knees as his grip on Provodnikov's waist breaks.

That 6:03 into 6:04 moment is pivotal, shame HBO didn't include that in their slow-mo replay. You might need to watch it a couple of times.

That is never a knockdown, in that situation. I need cite nothing but common sense.

 

A punching bag that damaged the fighter, Tim Bradley, more than Tim damaged him.

 

Does anybody other than Slyk not see a push-down there? :conf

 

Looks like a knockdown to me, his legs dropped fast.