Pryor vs Arguello: What was in the bottle?

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or in other words some PED

 

Juan Manuel Márquez's urine.

 

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Thank you that first hand feedback.

Now, I'm speculating here that Pryor may have an increased genetic tolerance to accelerants like ephedrine and cocaine.

Upon Henry Armstrong's death in 1988, an autopsy revealed his heart to be one third larger than average, and he had a resting heart rate reported to be anywhere from 27 to 36 BPM, explaining his ridiculous work rate and stamina. (It also helps account for why he was such a slow starter. Out of 101 knockout wins, only six stoppages were in the opening round despite his power, and they occurred few and far between. He usually needed some time to warm up.)

Pryor may well have the same inherent advantage Armstrong possessed. It would be interesting to know what his resting heart rate was and is. It would mean he could tolerate substances like ephedrine, pseudoephedrine and cocaine with some abandon.

 

Having a tolerance to the drug wouldn't necessarily harness greater results, it would simply take more to get the adrenaline rush. As I mentioned if I do cardio I do feel I can go for longer - although research on that is inconclusive. If I take too much my blood pressure goes up and chest starts to tighten up and I can't perform. Also I have vomited from taking too much. Taking small doses regularly in water may be a good way to deliver a constant boost as it will get in the system quicker being already dissolved.

Ephedrine is a great cure for a hangover btw :good

Is Cocaine an effective PED btw? I haven't used it to know

 

Ask Marquez, he knows, he takes the same ****

or is that ****?

 

whatever marquez took he still has a long way 2 go 2 come close 2 pacquiao . and of course floyd used them as well .

 

iron brew

 

Understood. I was specifically alluding to your cautionary mention that, "overdue it and you'll start having heart palpitations and get KTFO" My speculation is that Pryor may have been unusually resistant to those negative side effects if taking more to get that rush. That's merely a tenuous hypothesis though.

:roflOh man, now you've done it! Kids all over this board are now going to be lining up to try this out!:tired:shock::hop

Neither have I, but I've substantial life-long experience with prescribed doses of up to 200 mgs daily of Ritalin and Adderall. I have never tried crushing an amphetamine class drug and dissolving it in water (the means by which it would have presumably been administered to Pryor by Lewis in Miami), but I can tell you the quick release forms of Ritalin, Adderall and Dexedrine never affected me like that when taken in tablet form. (Furthermore, 150 mg was my optimal dose before I developed a tolerance. Prior to that, I never experienced any intolerable symptoms of overdose, but simply stopped experiencing improvements in functioning after getting myself titrated from 120 mg to 150 mg. Following the quantum improvement that produced, it wouldn't have matter if I tried a dose of 200, 300 or 400 mg, no further perceptible change or improvement was observed by me.)

Ritalin is probably the closest chemical relative to cocaine in the legal pharmacopoeia, and has been since being first synthesized in 1944, then released into the market by CIBA (later Ciba-Geigy, now Novartis) a decade later.

For whatever it's worth, I never experienced the amphetamine class drugs to act as physical PEDs, strictly as mental focusing agents when they worked properly.

I would seem calmer and more engaged to observers while on these medications as a child, but must emphasize that I have classical AD/HD, and whenever I quit using them cold turkey, I NEVER experienced any symptoms of withdrawal whatsoever. Authentic AD/HD is a distinct biological condition in those who have it. Based upon anecdotal observation of myself and others who have been accurately diagnosed with it, I believe there IS a paradoxical effect involved. People with true ADD often seem immune to an addictive response to these medications, and commonly chose to discontinue them, again with nothing resembling withdrawal symptoms.

Having said that, there is a key difference between cocaine and methylphenidate at the molecular level. I've never tried cocaine (and never intend to, even if available as a legally prescribed agent for my AD/HD).

Provigil (modafinil) is actually the prescribed agent which worked most as a physical PED for me, but there was nothing of a rush connected with how I responded to it. (Also, none of those nasty heart palpitations and ragged edges I experienced with amphetamines.) If modafinil had been available in Pryor's day, it definitely could not have effected him as dissolved ephedrine powder might.

Can cocaine be an effective PED? We're each an experiment of one. Some people have a better reaction to modafinil than I (for example as a mood brightener), some people respond adversely to it, and others not at all. The same might be said for other medications being discussed.

Aaron Pryor himself was hardly a poster boy for biological normalcy, and his specific genetic traits may have been ideally tailored for a more efficacious response without adverse effects to whatever POS Lewis administered to him in that particular situation at that particular moment.

Your description of vomiting from taking too much suggests a drastically accelerated heart rate. I've also experienced dry heaves from surpassing my target heart rate during hard runs. Curious to know whether or not ephedrine instantly opens up your lungs with the kind of speed Pryor appeared to display in Miami. You made it clear it affects your lungs this way, but didn't detail how quickly this response occurs. Of course I'm asking for your best guess here, not suggesting that you try dissolving it in water anymore than I tried snorting amphetamines. (That's something I never contemplated trying, and never would.)

 

delete , seems like u interpreted my comment wrongly , don't worry about me , i m here 2 learn
edit #2 : i guess i really should have learned 2b quiet by now , go back 2 your discussion , i m waiting :twisted:

 

yes, alertness and stuff in the short term, and old cycle racers put it in their crazy cocktails

 

Since we have XPerts here (no kidding) , can any1 tell me d effects of Cocoa compared 2 coffee ? I heard it contains much less caffeine but it does contain nitrooxides which help creating new blood vessels , as well as antioxidants (what's new?) and theobromine which resembles caffeine . can any1 tell me more ?
And does any1 know how can i get dutasteride and if it's dangerous at all ? (no fem)