Pugilistic Dementia

Maybe it's just me, but it's weird to see a guy like Pep on the list who was still sharp after he retired and, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't even in a nursing home until his 80's.

The biggest difference I see is the age that the symptoms occur. It's one thing to see it when a fighter's 40, but when the symptoms don't show up until they're already old it's tough to determine which is which.

As far as CTE goes (aka pugilistic dementia), the symptoms people commonly know of are slurring speech, slow reaction, and forgetfulness. Ones people may not be as aware of include depression, erratic behavior, and making bad financial decisions. That's because the same part of the brain responsible for decision making is the same one subjected to the most damage. So if you're identifying younger fighters with it, guys like Valero, Ibeabuchi, and Gatti would come to mind.

 

Isn't it odd/remarkable that neither George Chuvalo or Jake LaMotta suffer from this.

 

To be fair Patterson was very, very until he seemed to suddenly succomb to dementia overnight. If that doesn't convince guys to pack it in one fight too early I don't know what will.

 

Freddie Roach? Pea?Frazier? no

 

I don't know about Pep I saw an interview of him in his 70s and he seemed pretty sharp at the time. Like you mentioned old age might have been the reason for his case of dementia.

 

I spoke to Larry last year. Seemed fine to me.

 

also the pep one...for a while half of us still believed that he went a round without landing and thus not getting hit with a punch.

seems a bit like putting 2 categories into one. a formula that goes as guy with parkinsons/alzheimers + had a pro license = case.

nobody in the fight game denies mental health.

half the reason why these reports get largely untalked about in the boxing world is that every person who has laced a glove to any capacity are fully aware of the dangers. more than

 

People who say Ali's condition is not due to boxing are full of ****. They are trying to protect boxing because Ali is the most recognizable name. They say that Ali has Parkinson's as a means of deflecting the idea that its pugilistica dementia. What they dont tell you is that Ali has Parkinson's SYNDROME, not Parkinson's DISEASE. Parkinson's Syndrome can be caused by trauma to the brain.

 

Another that isn't normally mentioned is Ezzard Charles.

I wonder if his ALS has possibly due to the blows to the head?

 

Very true about Ali,imo. It's his motor skills that are affected,not his mind. It annoys me when some make out that he does n't know what day it is. They obviously don't read enough.

 

not related . u tell me how many fighters had ALS : him and Scott LeDoux ? and that's about where it ends ?

D cause 2 ALS is damage 2d envelopes of a certain set of neurons , without rechecking it in wikipedia . it is sometimes caused by Xposure 2 chemicals that turn d trick on and/or sometimes by a genetic defect that disables d normal decomposition of superoxide and leaves d tissues Xposed 2 it .

 

Even if that is true, which isnt entirely, who ever said traumatic brain injuries only effect the human capacity to reason, or intellectualize daily activity? The brain serves many functions and controlling and regulating motor skills is one of them.

Its pretty well agreed that Freddie Roach's condition is due to boxing. He has the same condition as Ali: Parkinson's Syndrome.

There are plenty of fighters who can think clearly but show signs of traumatic brain injury. Brain injury's take many different forms.

 

I know that Ali's Grandad had parkinsons.

 

Kids boxing at a 'young age', when the surrounding brain membrane is still in the
developmental stage.

Young boxers, should be involved in 'non-contact only' boxing, until the age of
14.