Pulev vs Spinks

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  1. fists of fury

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    Spinks is anything but unproven. He had a stellar career and lost one fight, to the most vicious fighter of modern times. Even at heavyweight alone, his experience at the top level is greater than Pulev's.

    If anyone is unproven, it's Pulev. One decent win over an ancient Thompson and a heavy loss to Wlad. Not much to write home about.
     
  2. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    I was talking Hw..that is the match up...not overall career at LHW.where is his level greater?He was stripped of a belt for not fighting Tucker and fought a shot C00ney instead?In reality he didn't win anything unless you count two robberies in Hw history,where the fight wasn't even close in either of them if you actually WATCH the holmes fights.Losing to Wlad is the same as spinks loss to Tyson it proves nothing.
     
  3. HerolGee

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    just as barely winning against 40something tony Thompson proves even less....a point you appear to be skirting entirely.

    spinks didnt even bother with 40somethings, easily outgassing someone proves nothing in terms of boxing ability. A match which would have been meaningless in spinks time has become a title eliminator today.
     
  4. fists of fury

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    You can't ignore all the experience he picked up at 175. You can't just wipe the slate clean that way and pretend none of that invaluable experience doesn't count.
    I won't even go on to his amateur experience.

    Michael at the top level has a ton of experience to draw on and you bet it's what helped him against bigger men.
    And Pulev is bigger but so what? He is not a physical fighter who forces his will on an opponent. Nor is he a heavy hitter or partuicularly skilled at any one thing.

    Anything he's gonna do, Michael has seen before. Mediocre big man gets outboxed by good small man.
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    Pulev had all he could handle against a 43 year old Tony Thompson. The result was indecisive at best. a 35 year old Holmes was a better win than anything Pulev's ever done, and I dare say that even guys like a shot C00ney and Tangstad were highly comparable to even Pulev's best victims.
     
  6. uncletermite

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    Actually I can because he never had a REAL career at HW,and certainly fighting ANYONE over 225 is going to be a huge wall to get over for him,thats why he ducked a prime Tucker!
     
  7. uncletermite

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    C00ney would be a test for anybody when he was on point,unfortunatly we all know who follow boxing know that's not the case there..Using Holmes is even more pointless,he was good throughout his career and certainly would be good today at ANY age below 50 though would not be a top 5 guy.35/43 year old holmes looked better than 80's holmes and that was with better fighters like Holyfield and Mercer.Had foreman not ducked Holmes all his career he would have got way more credit,the ridiculous boxing experts somehow have that man over Holmes,because he LOST to Ali?
     
  8. rex11y

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    Pulev is mediocre at best. Spinks at his best was an ATG light heavyweight and was more than competitive against Holmes and eked out a couple of decisions (I personally think Holmes won). Termite, your obsession with the size disparity blinds you to the gulf in skill level between Spinks and Pulev. If Pulev was a truly world class fighter then I would agree with you, but he isn't and Spinks was, albeit at the lighter weight.
     
  9. fists of fury

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    Funny that, since Gerry was 238 for their bout. And 6'7". Guess what the result was?

    Pulev is only 2" taller than Michael and that barely even counts. So we're back to the good old argument of bulk, which you so highly favour.
    I dunno how that benefits a guy who isn't a puncher (Pulev) in this matchup.

    PS-He fought ****ey for a hell of a lot more money than he was getting offered for Tucker. Any sane man would have done the same thing.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    Jesus, why do you even bother?
     
  11. fists of fury

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    :lol:

    I have no idea.
     
  12. uncletermite

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    If you think 6'4 and 250 is not remotly different from 6'2 200 you are severly deluded!you do understand the taller the guy the more mass one can pack on right?Even 2 inches can put anyone in another weight class...guys like Hearns are an exception he was extremely tall yet skinny but still punches hard almost always gave him the advantage...what you guys fail to realize a 6'4 250 pounder with skill is going to cause problems for light punchers like spinks,it wont be a Tyson reckoning but inevitably spinks gets k.od here the more I look at this.


    He was stripped of his belt for taking the ****ey fight,i don't think money was the sole reason.doesnt he lose money now afterwards?I also wasnt aware that spinks hit harder than Pulev?:nut
     
  13. HerolGee

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    emm.. no. he said Gerry was bigger than pulev and he got destroyed by Michael.

    its you who is deluded enough to think he said the exact reverse of what you claim he said. do you live topsy-turvy land?
     
  14. madballster

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    Pulves stood in the ring with Wlad for 5 solid rounds. How many would glass-jawed Spinks last? 1? 2?

    Before he gets his glass jaw shattered? Spinks is mediocre... very much a B level contender.
     
  15. HerolGee

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    amazing that spinks, who twice beat an atg... is being derogatrized compared to a guy who lost badly to someone who is barely a HoFer.

    topsy turvy land indeed.