Pulev's resume is good and yet I don't rate him

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Faerun, Dec 4, 2013.


  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anybody else in the same boat? His resume is good, no doubt:

    - Thompson
    - Ustinov
    - Dimitrenko
    - Sprott
    - Walker
    - Rossy
    - Guinn
    - Skelton
    - Page

    Some decent boxers on there and some acknowledged gatekeepers who are considered decent scalps in the early stage of the career.
    However, I can't say I'm impressived with his game. I was ringside when he fought Paolo Vidoz a few years ago and while he looked good, I failed to see anything impressive about him. I'm pretty sure I've seen every single relevant fight of his career and to me, he appears to be missing that certain undefinable something. First of all, he lacks power and you don't get the feeling he wears off the opponents with his shots - he just scores and wins on score cards most of the time.
    Then, he got rocked pretty freaking badly against Walker who is known to be a big puncher tbf but if you are to challenged for a world title, Walker should probably not be hitting you with his hilariously telegraphed punches to begin with. Sometimes, I'm not even sure if Walker is a heavy hitter or if he just pulls his arm so far back that the momentum of the punch inevitably skyrockets. Most boxers could probably pull that off except it's poor technique and will never land unless your opponent's not paying attention.

    His effords against Ustinov and Dimitrenko were good, technically, but I honestly, those wins told us more about Ustinov and Dimitrenko (who quit on a jab) than about Pulev's qualities. He stopped both and yet I believe he is a light HW puncher who cannot scare any top tier HW with his punches. Chisora would walk right through his barrages.

    In my perception, he makes the impression of a poor man's Klitschko without the hight advantage both usually have. A prime Thompson would've probably not lost the fight against him, let's be honest here.

    I wish he would just step it up and fight a Klitschko at this point. Considering that Wlad is apparently in negotiations with Leapai, who I consider a terribly overmatched and insultingly poor opponent, he might as well give it a shot. People have gotten title shots in this era for way less. He has earned it no doubt and is probably the most deserving contender out there, but does he have a shot? Not really.

    Shame, Adamek ducked him.
     
  2. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wont say no that i wouldnt say yes
     
  3. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    We all know why you don't rate Pulev. :-(

    And no matter what he does or who he beats, you never will.
     
  4. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beat Chisora and I will rate him. Or fare reasonably well against Wlad and I'm okay too. It's just that for how good his resume is, I feel underwhelmed by him due to the reasons stated in the OP. Povetkin had a similarly good resume and was more impressive I feel.
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he's competent, but not especially good. I don't think he has the right style to take on Wlad, unless Wlad gets old in a hurry.

    He's one of the better heavyweights of this current era, but that's not saying a whole lot.
     
  6. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Disagree with most of the things stated in the OP.

    Firstly, you have to understand that he's not a knockout artist and that he bases his gameplan differently. His jab is very accurate and well executed, so he does hurt his opponents if he keeps hitting them, which he usually does. He is hard to hit, moves well and if his opponents are outsized or not fast enough, they are in trouble. And if you think that Chisora could walk through his shots, your boxing knowledge is pretty limited. He is nowhere near the level of Pulev and you should have figured that out by now.

    I agree that his style may not be suitable for someone like Klitschko, because Wladimir is bigger than him, has better jab, controls the distance better and moves faster. That doesn't mean that Pulev is not good, he has a good jab himself, as well as movement and the sense of distance.

    As for Thompson, you can say whatever you want because Tony is past his best now, but the fact his that Pulev figured him out and defeated him comfortably. I could see it being more competitive if Tony was at his peak, but Imo Pulev beats him every time.
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I like him, he's a good heavyweight, unlike most today.
     
  8. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Decent'ish post. I think with Pulev similar with Tyson Fury we've seen massive improvements from fight to fight where both are clearly sharpening their tools with each fight although the inactively between Ustinov and Thompson seriously blunted the blade. He looked to really be coming on strong from the Sprott, Dimitrenko and Ustinov fights, big leaps every fight. Prior to that Pulev seemed to just do enough to win and never looked like an elite in the making.

    I'm not convinced a prime Thompson would have beaten Pulev. Prime Thompson never had stamina which of course was his undoing against Pulev. If I remember right Thompson seemed to have ran out of gas against Wlad around the middle rounds back during their first fight.

    I'm not sure Chisora would walk through Pulev. If anything Chisora stylistic wise is perfect for Pulev. Pulev has always looked better against opponents who force the fight on him. Which despite the fight needing to happen I suspect Pulev vs Wlad will be a terrible fight to watch which will resmeble something like Haye and Ibragimov vs Wlad. Two cautious outside jabbers happy to see it go to points.
     
  9. David HEY!!!

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  10. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got a better resume than most current HWs, he has to be rated based on that.
     
  11. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do. He should be the #1 contender for a world title fight. It's just that despite his good resume (it's pretty damn fabulous by today's Klit opponents standards), I'm not sold on him.

    Needless to say, he doesn't really match up well with Wlad because Pulev basically does similar things except worse. His jab is really good but not better than Wlad's which would probably lead to a lopsided fight but that remains to be seen.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad wants no part of Pulev. Wlad doesn't want to fight a guy he can't out jab , bear hug and tackle.

    Pulev has been mentioning Wlads name over and over but Wlad didn't respond once.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He is you jackass.
     
  14. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad's not in negotiations with him, is he? I know he's the #1 around but nothing about these two fighting has emerged as of late.
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats because Wlad chose to fight Lepai instead. Pulev is mando. If he turned down a fight with Wlad , he would cease to be mando, yeah?