i cant do any pull ups. so i was wondering. what is a good starting point in being able to do them? do i just keep trying until i get one? or should i start off with kipping pull-ups then work my way up? any advice? thank you.
"What if You Cant Do 1 Pull-up or Chin-up? Whatever method you choose: pull yourself up as if nothing/nobody was helping you. Pull-ups & Chin-ups feel very different without assistance. And always try to beat your previous record. Chin-ups. Chin-ups are easier than Pull-ups. If you cant do 1 Pull-up, try Chin-ups. Alternate Chin-ups with Pull-ups when you get stronger. Resistance Band. Use a flex band to help you one the way up. Mini/light bands for light weights. Average/strong bands for heavier weights. Ask For Help. Ask someone to grab your side with his hands. Let him help you on the way up by squatting down & pressing up. Kipping Pull-ups. Swing your hips while pulling yourself up until you get stronger. Check how Jesse Marunde uses his hips on the last reps. Routine. You can also try this strength training routine to increase your strength on Pull-ups (or Chin-ups). Use Momentum. Jump up & use momentum. Control yourself on the way down. This one will get you a sore back & arms. Youre warned." from: http://stronglifts.com/how-to-do-pull-ups-and-chin-ups-with-proper-technique/ I can't do them either. I work in reverse pull-ups and chins, keep greasing the groove and you'll get there eventually!
You can also try negatives and isometrics, both build the strength you need relatively quickly. Try starting at the top of a pull-up (stand on a box to get there or jump) and hold at the top position, then lower yourself a bit and hold yourself there, lower a bit more, hold, lower a bit more and so on. If you can just stop yourself try to lower yourself as slow as possible and eventually you'll be able to do the holds. Or just work your back alot in the weight room. Try to mimic the movement and the muscles needed when using different exercises.
IMO no weight room exercise will build back strength the same way pull ups will. Specificity rule - you get what you train for. If he does lat pull downs on the machine, his back may get bigger/stronger, but that won't necessarily help his pull up count - at least not in the way that doing pull ups would. As for the main topic, just try to do 1. If you can't, you can't. The next day try again. Eventually you will get there. :good